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Kherson Counteroffensive: Why Is Ukraine Silent If Its Forces Are Winning?
International Business Times ^ | 9/2/22 | Sunny Peter

Posted on 09/03/2022 12:49:42 PM PDT by JonPreston

Kiev's silence about the outcome of its much-anticipated counter offensive is raising questions whether President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team have overplayed their hand in trying to take on entrenched Russian forces too early. Especially with some unverified reports on social media suggesting the Ukrainians have taken heavy losses.


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To: sockmonkey
The reason is that servicemen joined the armed forces of Ukraine due to coercive mobilization procedures.

In other words, they were "press-ganged"...

21 posted on 09/03/2022 1:17:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: sockmonkey

Wow, that’s damning. Thanks for posting.


22 posted on 09/03/2022 1:17:34 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: mvonfr

Will Schryver
@imetatronink
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The truth of the Kherson “offensive” is written on the maps for all to see: AFU attacks; Ru hits ‘em hard, then pulls back; AFU advances; Ru hits ‘em again, but pulls back more; AFU adds forces to salient; Ru flanks them in force & cuts off their rear; trap closed; turkey shoot.
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei


23 posted on 09/03/2022 1:17:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JonPreston

It appears they have taken a flesh wound.

24 posted on 09/03/2022 1:22:22 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: JonPreston

The only major encirclement is the Orc 45th sfB from Davydiv Brid & Mala Alexandrevka


25 posted on 09/03/2022 1:22:24 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BobL

Every advance in modern military history takes pics of the recaptured towns as they proudly move forward and rout the opposition. Not with the Ukes.


26 posted on 09/03/2022 1:23:02 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Cannon Fodder supported by the West. Who will replace the men used as ground meat?


27 posted on 09/03/2022 1:26:04 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: PIF

Link please.


28 posted on 09/03/2022 1:27:43 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: SkyDancer

“Why telegraph what you are doing or going to do?”

Now that’s funny right there. Z has been bragging about this counter-offensive for 6 weeks. Troop movements aren’t a secret these days either. This was to be a made for TV counteroffensive to win more heroin (USA weaponry) for Ukraine. They don’t have anything to show yet except a lot ambulances leaving the area. Without a constant inflow of American material, this war is over in a month. Biden does just enough to ensure more bloodshed but not nearly enough to win.


29 posted on 09/03/2022 1:32:31 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: JonPreston

It’s the “Humble Approach” as taught by Adolph Biden.


30 posted on 09/03/2022 1:33:30 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: JonPreston
Its called "operational security". The US did the same during both Gulf Wars (remember them?). When the US was on the offensive they kept quite about specifics. The news reported fighting was happening, just not any details that could allow Iraq to get any useful information. Real time information is going to be limited. 24/7 speculation will go on a usual.

This is a war between more evenly matched sides. It is not a one side action like the Gulf wars. Most of Russia territorial gains were taken in the first 6 to 8 weeks. They took Severdonestk in the fourth month, when Ukrainian defenders were largely cut off. The Kherson offensive is going to take months. Any newsworthy details will not be televised until well after the fact.

31 posted on 09/03/2022 1:36:56 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦)
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To: JonPreston

“Every advance in modern military history takes pics of the recaptured towns as they proudly move forward and rout the opposition. Not with the Ukes.”

Must be the ‘sympathy’ that the Azovs have for Russians, or something like that. Don’t want to get a 15 yard penalty or whatever.


32 posted on 09/03/2022 1:37:13 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Putin thought his invasion and capitulation of the Ukraine would be over in two weeks.


33 posted on 09/03/2022 1:37:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: SkyDancer

And Z’s military advisors told him to prepare for a year before counterattacking. Ukraine has certainly been a surprise in the early going, but this war is going to last as long as Uncle Sugar keeps wasting money on it. So probably a long time.

I don’t care who “wins”, they’ve both already lost and it just gets worse for both daily.


34 posted on 09/03/2022 1:44:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Widget Jr
When the US was on the offensive they kept quite about specifics

So you're asking us to believe that Zelenskyy, a man who plays the piano with his penis and takes weekly photo ops with Hollywood scum, is keeping his victorious counter offensive off the front pages? Do you have any idea how much money a thief like him could make on a military victory? Please, try harder.

35 posted on 09/03/2022 1:47:14 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: SkyDancer

How do you (we) know what Putin thought in that regard ?


36 posted on 09/03/2022 2:05:35 PM PDT by A strike (LGBFJRoberts)
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To: JonPreston
Zelenskyy...is keeping his victorious counter offensive off the front pages?

Not at all. The counteroffensive is in progress. Victory or failure can not be determined yet. Until there is some clear success or failure Ukraine and their allies will keep quiet about it. That is how war happens.

37 posted on 09/03/2022 2:13:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦)
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To: sockmonkey

Must be the same Ukies just cut off in their glorious offensive- Ingulet river Ukies pontoon bridges blown, trapping them….now being “ reduced” by Vlads artillery…is “ reduced” woke correct?, destroyed sounds much to masculine-current situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ettbWDNAQ


38 posted on 09/03/2022 2:34:59 PM PDT by delta7
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To: sockmonkey

Cannon Fodder supported by the West. Who will replace the men used as ground meat?
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Cannon fodder for Vlad’s cannons, the West really, really means to fight Vlad down to the last Ukrainian….when do you suppose the Ukie population wakes up? …defiance doesn’t win wars.

At this rate, there won’t be any Ukies left for simple post war policing…me thinks Ukraine gets carved up like a Turkey- intentionally.

Ukraine RIP 1991-2023


39 posted on 09/03/2022 2:41:42 PM PDT by delta7
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To: JonPreston

See post #24.


40 posted on 09/03/2022 3:07:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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