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Ukrainian forces begin 'shaping' battlefield for counteroffensive, senior US officials say
CNN ^ | 29-AUG-2022 | Jim Sciutto

Posted on 08/29/2022 6:56:01 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: DesertRhino
Sounds like a war college student.

Seriously?

Just so everyone knows, a "war college student" would be a Colonel or Navy Captain with probably more than one tour in combat.

Not exactly a fuzz-faced 2 Louie...

You may be right about all else, no beef from me.

21 posted on 08/29/2022 9:05:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

The Ukraine government could negotiate anything - but the people will stand for nothing less then the whole of Ukraine.


22 posted on 08/29/2022 9:05:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DesertRhino

Perhaps this is just a euphemism for shaping a phallus?


23 posted on 08/29/2022 9:24:21 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: PIF

Well, the Ukrainian people weren’t insisting on recovering Crimea militarily prior to the Russian invasion, so they appear to be willing to accept at least that.


24 posted on 08/29/2022 9:25:50 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Monterrosa-24

That is their problem.

Not ours.

Ours is to stay to hell out of there and let them kill each other off. Once they are done, they’ll settle down and stop the feud till they replenish their potential and start with the killing again.


25 posted on 08/29/2022 9:44:05 AM PDT by crz
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To: Monterrosa-24

“agents, bribes, threats, and mafia tactics.”

BTW..does that sound familiar to what is now in effect within this nation?


26 posted on 08/29/2022 9:46:13 AM PDT by crz
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To: Alas Babylon!

Both sides are doing propaganda the truth is somewhere between but I will say this the Russians on paper have no reason to be in this position. IMO their equipment soldiers and leadership have proven to be less than superior. A first as superior in numbers….should not be having these difficulties and suffering such losses. Do I think Ukraine will prevail as in their country being whole is extremely unlikely but the idea that Russia is the premier military organization in the region is dashed they are a third rate military and economy with nukes. Look at North Korea and a nuclear Iran as similar examples. Every day this goes on without a Russian “victory” is a loss for them


27 posted on 08/29/2022 9:53:03 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: crz

Indeed propagandist media corrupt leadership and the alphabet agencies acting as arms of the dim party. People ask how did what happened in Germany in the 30s. Well question answered


28 posted on 08/29/2022 9:55:45 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

By both sides doing propaganda I don’t mean Russia and Ukraine.

I mean pro-Ukraine FReepers versus Pro-Russia FReepers.

This is an ever-present crap storm that is simply personal attack versus personal attack that’s making the site a laughing stock.

I mean BOTH sides here.


29 posted on 08/29/2022 10:07:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Well, the Ukrainian people weren’t insisting on recovering Crimea militarily prior

That was then, this is now. The hate the Russian worse than they did, even the Ukrainian Russians, who supported the Russian invasion, hate them now.


30 posted on 08/29/2022 10:11:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blitz128

Exactly.

They are not communistic. They are using national socialistic methods and following the program completely.

Use the corporate sector to control the population and retain financial support. Use the media to brainwash and scare the masses. Use the political arena to legislate for the corporations as long as they support the proper legislators.

Actually, on further reflection, it is a mix of mafia tactics and NAZI tactics. Just remember this..nearly everything the mob did illegally, the government has made legal and now control.


31 posted on 08/29/2022 10:23:56 AM PDT by crz
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To: blitz128

Russia has a huge systemic problem in its military. It does not have a hard inner core of NCOs. This has a far larger effect on competence and discipline than most realize. Thousands of years of human combat has demonstrated this necessity.

I guess the Russians know better. /s


32 posted on 08/29/2022 10:55:05 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: crz

“...let them kill each other off...”

You are a sicko to wish this on the beautiful Ukrainian people who have been invaded by a powerful enemy of the United States.


33 posted on 08/29/2022 11:10:46 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

“who have been invaded”

What happened to cause that?

Who caused that?

Why did they do that?

We already know the when and the where.


34 posted on 08/29/2022 11:27:23 AM PDT by crz
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“Today, during the day, on the direct instructions of V. Zelensky, Ukrainian troops attempted an offensive in the Mykolaiv and Kherson regions in three directions.

As a result of the active defense of the grouping of Russian troops, the AFU units suffered heavy losses.

During the fighting, 26 Ukrainian tanks, 23 infantry fighting vehicles, nine other armored combat vehicles were destroyed, two Su-25 attack aircraft were shot down.

The enemy’s losses in manpower amounted to more than 560 servicemen. Another attempt at offensive actions of the enemy failed miserably.” - RuMoDsaid

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/europes-economic-and-social-suicide-provoked-by-the-us-and-helped-along-by-europes-leaders.html#more


35 posted on 08/29/2022 11:30:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: FirstFlaBn
"My mediaspeak translator says ‘shaping the battlefield’ really means ‘shaping the message’ to get Biden to grunt out the next couple of billion."

BTT

True that.

36 posted on 08/29/2022 11:34:06 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
This thread has been brought to you by George Soros.

For all your globalist warmongering needs, turn to George Soros. (also sponsored by Pfizer)


37 posted on 08/29/2022 11:52:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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38 posted on 08/29/2022 11:53:08 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: crz

“...“who have been invaded” sic

What happened to cause that?...”

Ukraine did nothing to Russia. Russia put out lots of false propaganda that appeals to the weak minded.

Putin wanted Ukrainian black soil areas. Putin wanted Ukraine’s coal fields. Putin wanted Ukraine’s other resources, their factories, their coast, their land.

You should travel to the Donbas and get the real story instead of watching stupid Russian-produced vids.


39 posted on 08/29/2022 12:40:44 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The justification for a massive military invasion of another country is, and should be, very high. There isn't a damn thing Ukraine did that remotely approaches that.

Putin invaded Ukraine because he wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia again, or at least under the control of a Moscow puppet. That's blindingly obvious to any remotely fair minded-person.

40 posted on 08/29/2022 12:45:49 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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