Posted on 08/23/2022 7:09:26 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
Six months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, signs are accumulating that the balance on the military and economic battlefields is slowly tilting the way of Kyiv and its Western backers. ... Some results of the war already seem settled. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s attempt to rewrite the ending of the Cold War by restoring Moscow’s historic sphere of influence in Eastern Europe has failed. His war on Ukraine has instead united almost all of Europe against him, revivifying the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which is poised to add Sweden and Finland as new members.
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Probably best to remember russia invaded Ukraine with less than 200k. I suspect they have about as much as they can take and hold with such low numbers.
“The big problem with you assessment is that it is demonstrably and irrefutably false.”
Right, because the Russians are in Kiev now, setting up a new puppet government after having trounced the pathetic Ukrainians.
Oh wait, they aren’t. Because they still can’t accomplish that six months later. Oops.
This is correct.
One theory is that once Kherson and (some other place I can't remember) have their referendums in September, troops can be raised to hold those oblasts and free up the allies for the next step.
The next step will probably be to take Odessa, Mikolaiv and the whole Ukrainean seaboard down to the mouths of the Danube.
Depends on how you look at it.
Six months for the #2 military in the world to take over 20% of Ukraine?
“Because they still can’t accomplish that six months later.”
If they wanted to, all electricity would have gone out on day one. They refrain from this because they know that while many people do not have brains nor can they think for themselves, you for example, there are many that do. Those people will see it while you will not, and they’ve abandoned the idea of trying to impress anything on people who think, using the term loosely, like you do.
I watch Defense Policy Asia from Singapore daily
All ukes are doing is lobbing some artillery mostly on civilians which is all they can do now
Murdoch orgs spout so many blatant lies
People were worried News Corp would do this but from a conservatives pov
Funny how things go
Srednik points out the military verity that to repulse an invasion is considered a victory. Monocacy. Antietam. Gettysburg. While Confederate arms proved potent, these three invasions of the North were repulsed. Ergo, the were Union victories. That Ukraine is intact deserves more eloquent praise from WSJ than “tilting in their favor.”
BTW - Consider that considerable oil and gas reserves were discovered in Donbas and Crimea just before RasPutin invaded in 2014. Get the picture?
That had nothing to do with the Memorandum.
Yanukovich was impeached by the Ukrainian parliament and removed from office, legally, per their constitution.
soetoro, xiden and our corrupt state dept were deeply involved and directing the protests that led to his impeachment, of course.
Before that, Russia controlled Ukrainian politics.
They were pouring troops into Donbas and arming and training their proxies, the DPR & LPR long before that.
They’ve done the same thing in Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya and Tajikastan.
Sadly, between WEF, Russian and US corruption Ukraine has never had a chance at self determination.
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The Western Media telepaths knew exactly what the Russian leadership was thinking.
Actually I was repeatedly told and shown on maps by FReepers how divided Ukraine was between western Ukraine and ethnic Russian eastern Ukraine.
Then why wasn’t Kiev leveled like Grozny
Why is the power still on everywhere but the Donbas and some of Luhansk?
Lviv and the surrounding territories were once part of Poland and later the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
All the areas in dispute are far more fluid than, say, British settlement in Canada or even French presence in Quebec. None of this obviate the facts that Russia has invaded another nation.
Ukraine is more like a post Soviet California. Agriculture, energy, and aerospace.
....and corruption dripping with fsb/kgb underpinnings.
Keep thinking that.....
Makes sense. Many seem to think the russian war aims are all of Ukraine. With the current numbers I just do not see that as a logical conclusion.
What are the war aims? I surely do not know, but I do know that 200k is not enough for the whole of Ukraine….not even close.
“...Yanukovich was impeached by the Ukrainian parliament and removed from office, legally, per their constitution.
soetoro, xiden and our corrupt state dept were deeply involved and directing the protests that led to his impeachment, of course.
Before that, Russia controlled Ukrainian politics.
They were pouring troops into Donbas and arming and training their proxies, the DPR & LPR long before that...”
And let’s remember that in the “People’s Republics” that teachers, hospital workers, civil engineers, and admin types have to join THE PARTY. The party is UNITED RUSSIA. That is Putin’s party. So, the independent republics are not very independent now, are they?
Russia doesn't.
You’re speculating that Russia wants to take more of Ukraine which is speculation reported by who ?? Those supporting Ukraine, the point is no one including you and I know anything about what Russia’s ultimate goal is in this war
I truly do not wish to give pain to anyone on this site. I regard US veterans as heroes. Their service and devotion has been shamefully betrayed by the Biden administration.
So please don't think I seek to give offence if I note that it took the #1 military power in the world 20 years, trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to tear the Taliban out of Afghanistan - and then hand it back to the Taliban.
Evidently the Russians are taking a different tack.
“Their goal is the war ending with a larger Russia and a demilitarized Ukraine - which Ukraine agreed to when the USSR dissolved. It was a condition of independence”
What fresh BS is this?
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