There was a preservation order.
No one cared.
In fact, it’s the accepted procedure now, right? No penalty.
Posted on 08/03/2022 1:16:43 PM PDT by Cecily
Alex Jones appeared shocked as he was told his lawyers had accidentally handed over hundreds of text messages by mistake after he told a court that they did not exist, after admitting that the Sandy Hook massacre did happen.
The InfoWars host squirmed in his seat after confirming his phone number was linked to the texts, after previously declaring under oath at the defamation hearing that there were no messages about Sandy Hook on his phone.
Jones was horrified to discover that his team sent a digital copy of every text and email about Sandy Hook, despite declaring under oath that they didn’t exist.
Attorney Mark Banston, working for the Sandy Hook parents, revealed that they received the information 12 days ago, spanning years.
Jones called it their ‘Perry Mason’ moment during the trial, with Jones being accused of perjuring himself while giving evidence.
He previously testified that he was unable to find any emails regarding the Sandy Hook massacre, and was shocked when one was shown on screen to the court.
Jones was asked if he felt repeatedly claiming the shooting was a hoax was irresponsible, replying 'it was, especially since I've met the parents.'
He claimed he was ‘under a lot of pressure’ at the time he claimed the slayings were a hoax, adding: ‘I truly meant it when I said those statements.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
The parents are suing him for defamation. He has been publicly calling them liars.
“the liberal Democrat judge ruled that he “withheld” info.....what exactly he supposedly withheld has never been made clear.”
It was made perfectly clear. He was ordered to reveal how much income his businesses received related to his coverage of Sandy Hook, which is key information that the court will need to determine damages if he is found liable. He did not comply.
“And that therefore on the basis of this, ruled he was not allowed to put up a defense.”
Wrong again. He is allowed to make a defense, but he is not allowed to make a “1st Amendment”, or freedom of speech defense against a libel claim, because the 1st Amendment doesn’t protect one from libel claims. This is not anything out of the ordinary, it is the standard in ALL libel cases in the United States. You really need to stop believing every transparent lie put out by Jones’ fans.
As for whether the judge is biased, at least on these 2 points it wouldn’t matter a bit if he got a Trump or Bush appointed judge handling the case. Any judge would have ruled the same way.
I used to be the designated deposition giver for a gas and oil company. I dont know, i don’t recall, yes, no, im not certain. Once you go beyond that you are screwing up
The kids dying was absolutely not a hoax. Parents were burying their children.
What led up to him saying really dumb stuff like that is another matter.
“Why exactly is he being sued, other than the fact that he has deep pockets?”
He’s being sued for libel.
“You can argue that his opinion on the incident is wrong but who was actually “harmed” by his opinion?”
That’s what the court is going to determine. But it’s not about his “opinion” at all. It’s about statements and claims that he made which the plaintiffs allege are demonstrably false and malicious. Those are quite different things, legally, from “opinions”.
“He is not a public official or anyone who has any impact on the lives of the families.”
Everyone is subject to the same laws on libel.
“There are those who still claim that a plane did NOT hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01. They say it was a missile. Can the families of those who died in that crash sue those who make that claim?”
Yes, if someone says something false or malicious about those family members, then they can be sued. These laws are nothing new, in fact, they are older than the USA itself, so I don’t see why people are suddenly acting surprised that they exist.
“The question arises: how could Jones’s private text messages have harmed the defendants?”
That’s not the only reason they can be valuable as evidence. If, for example, the text messages show that Jones knew that the public statements at issue he was making were false, then that is very relevant evidence.
“Silencing Jones will also intimidate many others who hold unconventional views outside the range of acceptable viewpoints, from Fox to Huffpost.”
If by “silencing”, you mean making them think twice before they publish false and malicious statements about other people, then that’s actually a good thing.
“The lawyers did not force Jones to lie on the stand, “
See #11
“What led up to him saying really dumb stuff like that is another matter.”
That’s an interesting question. Did Alex Jones say crazy stuff because he was pandering to loonies on the internet? Or did loonies on the internet start believing crazy stuff because Alex Jones was promoting it? Chicken or the egg?
Stop understating what he is.
He's a lying lunatic.
“Jones handed over all kinds of evidence and went through multiple depositions and then the liberal Democrat judge ruled that he “withheld” info.....what exactly he supposedly withheld has never been made clear”
Well, your first problem is you’re taking Jones word for this. He’s a proven liar.
The email messages on his phone should have been handed over to the plaintiffs in discovery, so right there he didn’t hand over everything. His attorneys knew the email messages were on the phone, and they allowed him to commit perjury on the stand. I’m thinking his attorneys will be lucky not to be suspended or disbarred.
Also, he lost his cases (plural) in Texas and Connecticut based in part on the fact he was subpoenaed and didn’t show up for depositions. Don’t bother to say he actually showed up for all his depostions. There would have been audio and video recordings of the depositions and he and his attorneys would have copies. He just plain thought he was above the law.
As far as him turning over evidence, there would have been detailed records and logs of what he turned over. He and his attorneys would have copies of the logs and records of evidence he turned over. His attorneys would have been able to prove he turned over the material.
You can talk about some vast conspiracy to ‘get’ Jones. The truth is he got himself. He didn’t turn over evidence, he ignored depostions, he’s lied on the stand. Jones is a wrong ‘un. Now he’s having to face the music.
Need the exact wording. He may not have had the items of interest in his control. He could have already deleted them from his devices.
It seems to me that his lawyers screwing up royally would give him an instant out.
More two tier justice. CNN lied about Trump for 4 years straight. Said he was a Russian agent, had thr scumbag lawyer trashing him daily, said he paid people to pee on Obamas bed. I could go on and on. Confident they’ll never been treated the way Jones is being treated.
“did he broadcast his disbelief on his show? “
If you have to ask that you should not be posting your opinions.
Did Jones’s text messages indicate his disbelief in the Sandy Hook massacre or not? If he said that he believed the children were killed yet broadcast his disbelief, then there may be cause for defamation. However, if he held to the belief that the massacre did not happen, he is entitled to his opinion even if errant.
He deserves this lawsuit. I don’t give a rat’s backside what his politics are- he called the parents of the murdered children at Sandy Hook liars. He was cruel and thoughtless and altogether deceitful. He deserves every bit of scorn he receives.
The left has its share of madmen. So do we. Alex Jones is one of them.
Regardless Jones’ case in thos we must all be very VERY worries. Lawyers are now all deep state agents. Their marching orders have gone out that they better violate every legal and traditional role of a lawyer working for a client or they will be destroyed. They work for the deep state and if you are not a compliant plaebe your own lawyers will work to bury you.
Do I take it that you trust CNN, Yahoo News, the Daily Mail, etc.?
“Lawyers are now all deep state agents.”
Nope.
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