Give me back Crimea and I'll let you go home.
Posted on 07/18/2022 2:37:48 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Give me back Crimea and I'll let you go home.
If the Russians seriously believed that NATO was going to invade through Ukraine then they’re too crazy to be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Poland isn’t being run by the Mongol hordes, neither is Germany. The German army is training with broomsticks because they can’t afford enough rifles to go around. The only thing Poland wants from Russia is to be left the hell alone.
If Putin would quit bullying his neighbors he could live the rest of his life with more money than he and his gang of thugs could spend in three lifetimes. Instead he got this idea of reconstituting the Soviet Union in his head.
The Ukes are never going to give up. Even if Putin “wins” this thing somehow he will have a restive province fighting a guerilla war on his border for the next 100 years.
Putin needs to withdraw his troops and ask for an internationally supervised plebiscite in those breakaway regions with all sides guaranteeing they’ll respect the results. Have the UN monitor it.
No one in Ukraine gives a rats ass what their “status” was in 1922. They’re a sovereign nation today with internationally recognized borders that Putin violated in defiance of international law. He doesn’t get to redraw world maps because it suits him. And he sure as hell doesn’t get to decide which organization any sovereign nation decides to join.
That’s not how things work.
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This point of attack is truly cool. Crimea is Ukraine, therefore Russian elements must can be destroyed.
Attack a weak flank. Crimea is a weak flank that must be defended and therefore weakens the Russian attacks on Ukraine proper.
The Bridge is mentioned a lot. I wonder why the Ukraine purposely doesn’t attack and destroy the Bridge?
While true, irrelevant in the present context.
This is different than say an ontological/metaphysical modality of possibility.
To illustrate the difference consider Goldbach's Conjecture (every even number greater than two is the sum of two prime numbers) which is not quite proven but suspected to be true by mathematicians. So one might be able to say, as far as we know it is false. However in an ontologica/metaphysical modality it is either false or it is true and it is not possible to be the other.
What Russian soldiers have done under Moscow orders is reignite a Ukrainian/Russian blood feud.
If you go back to 1932-3, Stalin created a genocide in Ukraine where millions were starved to death and Soviet soldiers closed the borders. Moscow orders were to confiscate Ukrainian grain and ship it to Moscow and other large Russian cities. Russia just recently stole Ukrainian wheat.
After the Soviet revolution Lenin issued his hanging orders to round up dissidents and trouble makers, and publicly hang them. He and Stalin also had people rounded up tortured and the deported far from Ukraine to work camps. Recent war crime and force deportations by Russian troops are reminding Ukrainians of those old atrocities.
There is far too much bad blood for Ukraine to want to stop at anything less than an invasion of Russia and creation of a "no man's" land on former Russian soil. Yes we are headed for a Judgment Day in Ukraine, but it will be because Russians did not understand the festering wounds they opened.
Nice, I’m stealing that.
That’s not how things work.
Why not? We do it all the time.
The very concept of destroying such a beautiful piece of civilian infrastructure because of an obstinate unwillingness to accept a political loss is disgusting.
All Ukraine had to do was officially state the obvious (Crimea is Russia), and most of this could have been solved diplomatically.
Unfortunately, the Ukrainian leaders live in "la-la land" where they believe the fantasy that Crimea is still Ukrainian territory and that they somehow have the right to take it. Either that, or they have their heads so far up the a***s of the American deep state that they couldn't make the decision for themselves.
Wonderful summation! Thank you for your words!
Regards,
I’m tired of all their BS and bluster. My guess is the reason they haven’t pulled the trigger on their nukes is that most of them are probably inoperable in their silos and mobile launchers from lack of maintenance and scavenging. The probably have a few that they think will work and a few more that will work but thet know if they launch those few it won’t be enough to destroy the west.
I guess they feel its enough to play a game of chicken.
Have you ever even been to the Crimea? Apparently, not - Since, if you had, you'd know that the whole damn coastline of Crimea is riddled with naval bases, military installations, and the like. Yes, Yevpatoria is picturesque (though also the location of a military sanatorium), and Yalta is a dream - but Sevastopol is home to the Black Sea Fleet, and - since the brazen land-grab of 2014 - the entire peninsula has been even more-heavily fortified. It is now more of a legitimate military target than ever!
Regards,
I do not disagree.
Of course, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is in Sevastopol, but it was there before 2014 as well (under the terms of a long-term lease).
Obviously, security has been beefed up due to overt Ukranian aggression (the RF built a wall on the northern border!) but it is certainly no demilitarized zone...just a normal place with normal people living there.
Now consider the question: "Is it possible for this nuclear missile to blow up when activated?"
There is a branch of logic called "modal logic" which (among other things) distinguishes different senses of terms like "possible". For example:
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