Posted on 07/13/2022 11:33:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Over 40 people are unaccounted for and more than 100 homes have been damaged or destroyed after devastating floods ripped through western Virginia on Wednesday, officials said.
Torrential rain, which began on Tuesday and lasted through early Wednesday morning, caused flash flooding in Buchanan County, as well as widespread power outages and damages to roads and other infrastructure, the Virginia Department of Emergency Management said.
The Buchanan County Sheriff’s Office said in a Wednesday afternoon statement that 44 people, including children, in the Whitewood area were “unaccounted for” after their loved ones were unable to immediately get into contact with them.
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Weather has been rather crazy lately. I guess not climate change, but something is up.
I believe flooding is the number one weather-related killer in the USA. I hope they find as many alive as possible ASAP.
Flood plains have been flood plains for eons.
The more moderate position is an answer to the Problem of Evil, i.e. how can an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving God cause natural evil to befall His people. This position is that an overall rise in sin in the world will lead to more natural calamities in general. So it's wrong to point the blame directly at the victims of a particular calamity, but if the world's people are being more sinful in general, then expect more calamities.
The other possibility is that these calamities could have been less calamitous but for increasing incompetence, e.g. more earthquake deaths from poorly built buildings, more flood victims from poorly maintained levees, etc.
As the American Empire slides into debauchery and decay it makes sense that greed, corruption, incompetence, nepotism, etc. will lead to our decaying infrastructure and bad policy decisions leading to greater suffering from similar natural events in the past.
Here in California we have bad forest management and insufficient water storage to blame for increased destruction from wildfires.
“But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.”
— II Peter 3:10, NASB
That’s the end state, climate-wise.
So, perhaps there’s a bit of “climate change” here and there, but it’s NOTHING like what’s ultimately going to happen, and it is ABSOLUTELY NOT your SUV that’s responsible for ANY of it.
This will be a test of Governor Glenn Youngkin’s administration.
man, western Virginia is notorious for devastating flash flooding....especially against the Eastern slope of the Blue Ridge mountains. Read a book a few years back called “the roar of the heavens”...about how the remnants of Hurricane Camille, 3 days after landfall in Mississippi, stalled over Nelson County Virginia in 1969... and dumped what meteorologist’s say was the most rainfall that was probably “theoretically possible” in 6 hour period. The official total was 27 inches...some totals were 31 inches, over a narrow band in Nelson County only. To this day they dont quite understand exactly what happened that night..only that the remnant of Camille got trapped against the eastern slope of the mountains, stalled, and literally set up a “rain making machine” that just kept regenerating over and over a small area. 160 people were killed in the flooding in Nelson County, more than died at the landfall in Mississippi. Entire slopes just dissolved into raging mudslides...boulders, trees, bridges, houses,etc kept “damming” up, only to explode further downstream....to this day, there are still scars on the mountain sides that are visible.....Camille was a beast....
God does not cause bad things. Think of it this way, God, good. Satan bad.
We were on a road trip across the country and driving through West Virginia on a secondary highway. Figured there would be a diner or place to eat where the sign pointed to some town.
We got onto the smaller road and there was a semi and a few cars off to the side of the road all smashed. I thought that was odd, but...
Went a bit further and got to where the “town” was and there was a small restaurant - but it had collapsed from the flooding. Along with numerous other places.
The road became one lane as they were clearing the mudslide.
Ended up turning around in a church parking lot and they had a “Donations” sign by a big garage. It was full of people so I figured the least I could do was write a check to help them.
Before I could even do that I told them how we had hoped to get lunch in town. The gal invited us to a picnic table as they had hamburgers and hotdogs for all the volunteers and people that had lost their homes. I tried to beg off, but she said they had plenty. (Wife, myself and two teenage daughters).
The main floor of the church was okay but the basement was trashed. The huge garage had flooded on the ground floor but the second floor was okay. They had the ground floor cleaned up and it was filled with food, water and donated clothing.
The pastor’s home had been destroyed - but he was out helping other’s clean their homes.
He stopped by the church and chatted for a bit. He pointed up onto the hillside on the other side of the road (the church was below the road a bit, and then further down the hill below the church was his destroyed home and then the small river.
Up on the hill he pointed out the large trees (16 inch + diameter?) along the road that were snapped off about 20 feet above the road elevation. He said the water came rushing over the hill like a water fall and snapped the trees off 20 feet up in the air!
the pictures ive seen of the Nelson County flooding are just astonishing...there were 2 rivers that really went wild...the “Rockfish” was normally about 6 feet across and maybe 2-3 feet deep..really just a mountain stream..and the “Tye” river that feeds into the James River. As i said, theres quite a debate over exactly what happened, but the forecast for that night called for “an occasional shower”....it all just happened out of nowhere...scary.
When rain falls on a mountain, it has to go somewhere.
Buchanan County is not plains but mountains, and flash floods happen when cloudbursts hit mountain hollow communities with several inches of rain within minutes. Just like with tornadoes, there is no warning.
Thoughts and prayers for all involved.
How did your teenage daughters process it?
It’s time for common sense weather control.
Ok. Change the word plain to zone.
We have ‘mountain’ property bordering the Nantahala National Forest. We’ve seen what heavy/fast rains can do, even create temporary spectacular waterfalls.
Point is, we’d never put human-built structures in those areas at risk from rising and fast flowing waters. These folks lost everything amd its tragic.
I used to live in West Virginia and he is right. Everyone who is used to the mountains knows not to build on a flood plain. Permanent structures are built up the hill.
The only time I saw buildings flooded was when someone put a trailer beside a creek. The trailer toppled in a flood and created a dam when it hit a bridge. I’m sure the trailer owner thought he would be OK since the creek only flooded that much every 20 or 30 years but he wasn’t in luck that year.
Flood plains are salable rib eye red meat for real-estate agents
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