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The End of Private Car Ownership You will drive nothing and you will be happy.
frontpagemag.com ^ | 7/11/2022 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/12/2022 10:22:09 AM PDT by rktman

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To: DarrellZero

Same. Now, “Red Barchetta” seems prophetic.


41 posted on 07/12/2022 12:54:02 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2022 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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To: rktman

Democrat scum have always dreamed of criminalizing cars.


42 posted on 07/12/2022 12:59:59 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: DesertRhino
My original post was that I agree with most of the article against the push to move us to EV's, only we should no longer use the cost of a new EV as axiom in our argument because the cost of a new EV is now reasonable. I believe we sound like the ignorant Dims when our arguments use inaccurate facts.

I too, drive my paid for ICE truck 450-500 miles nonstop and fill it up in 5 minutes. Of course, that assumes my wife isn't with me. LOL
When she's with me, the need to stop every 200 to 250 miles for her to get out and stretch her legs corresponds to the EV's limits before it needs charging, and it takes 20 minutes to do both. Plus, the fast chargers tend to be by areas we'd stop at anyway (i.e. some Walmart's have fast chargers and are good for getting supplies for our cabin getaway as we walk around the store to stretch our legs). So the EV is good when we go on a trip together or she goes by herself to have one-on-one time with her mother or one of our daughters. When it's just me on a trip I'm all about driving my ICE truck just like you.

I agree 100% with your disdain towards the Greta followers. See my post about the Holocene Epoch being the real climate science and that our Modern Warm Period is a big nothing burger. https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4077799/posts?page=13#13

43 posted on 07/12/2022 1:04:54 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: NorthMountain

Nudge is just the first phase.

They’ll take the same approach as they did with the vax...


44 posted on 07/12/2022 1:07:16 PM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Nea Wood
As the population is dumbed down, the noose is tightened. Everything comes together at one time. It is like catching wild hogs.

They are going to get rid of petroleum operated vehicles. Then they will get rid of Electric vehicles. Then they will get rid of the people they wish. The only question remaining to be answered is how long are they willing to take.

45 posted on 07/12/2022 1:07:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Sarcazmo

At some point, it will be necessary to “nudge” right back.


46 posted on 07/12/2022 1:12:55 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

The last time a government tried to nudge people, it was into cattle cars.


47 posted on 07/12/2022 1:23:04 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: NorthMountain
The un-nudger.


48 posted on 07/12/2022 1:25:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Boomer
The cold does something to make it invisible.

Please google "thermal inversion".

49 posted on 07/12/2022 1:27:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: OldWarBaby
Where to begin?

...maybe you could throw in the part about the business of battery construction and re-cycling being the dirtiest business on the planet Evidently you missed the statement in the post you're replying to where I stated: "Them forcing us into EV's doesn't make sense in a lot of situations and producing EV's isn't exactly a clean process." I'm part of the choir you're preaching to in that regard.

And don’t fail to mention the increase in your home insurance from the increased risk of fire in your garage. Well ain't that special. I asked my insurance about that for both the EV and the solar equipment before I went down this path. No increase in my premiums except for increasing coverage cost (i.e. after a fire or weather hazard I need more payoff to not just rebuild the house but install the replacement solar equipment as well). My insurance premiums don't have an EV hazard rider or solar hazard rider or anything like that. My car insurance premium went up only because I replaced an old used car with liability only coverage with a new more expensive car with full coverage. That's part of the expense I calculated when I did my cost/benefits analysis of the EV and solar project.

Somewhere in there should be the cost of the replacement battery. I can buy a lot of five dollar gas for the cost of a 10,000 dollar battery. My wife and I drove nothing but used cars in our marriage and we replaced each car every 7 years on average. Today now that we're both quasi-retired as far as driving goes, we're sharing the EV for the most port (driving one car except for when we run separate errands or if we need the pickup for pickup chores). So I'm counting the EV costs in retirement the equivalent of replacing the costs of just one of our used cars if both of us were still working. I was about to have to replace her car anyway and was looking to spend about $10K (used car prices have skyrocketed). Then do that again in 7 years. Thus, the initial cost of the EV has an opportunity cost of $10K less than the price I paid (in other words, if I was to have gotten one of the $42K EV's it's a $32K decision since I was going to spend $10K anyway). Then another $10K 7 years from now to replace it with another used car -- vs. spending $10K to replace the EV battery in 10 years. If we compare the EV battery replacement cost with the cost of a new ICE car, hmmm..., that's a good question. The only time in my life I bought a new ICE car was decades ago, and at about 10 years I spent about $3K to $4K in major repairs (roughly $10K in today's money), not counting minor repairs, some of which are in both ICE cars and EV's (i.e. replacing the standard battery, tires, brake pads).

If you're interested in more details on how I used my software engineering analytical background to design a financial and energy plan for making my family a little less dependent on gubment energy crazies, there are more details here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4060059/posts?page=22#22. A few of the concepts to go down this path were learned by an online group called Practical Preppers. I don't see the overall problem they do of the government flipping the switch and completely shutting off our energy sources from us. I predict the government doing it slowly by keeping on making energy too expensive to use. For me, the solar and EV are a larger project to protect our retirement investments from Dim control-freaks using energy inflation.

50 posted on 07/12/2022 1:30:24 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: rktman

Tucker: Yang and the end of private car ownership – HotAir https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2019/09/20/yang-end-private-car-ownership-n303058


51 posted on 07/12/2022 1:46:32 PM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: con-surf-ative

I agree. Gone are the days where people were weaned from practices by the normal progress of innovation (cars vs. buggies) or societal disapproval (smoking). With Greta breathing down the necks of our leaders, they feel they must force people to change or find ways to punish them.


52 posted on 07/12/2022 2:09:23 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Honorary Serb
"What they really want is for us to be unable to get to Church!!!!"
What they really want is for us to die off with no descendants so a small group of elites can live in a bucolic world serviced by machines and a few starving slaves.
53 posted on 07/12/2022 2:11:05 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: rktman

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54 posted on 07/12/2022 2:19:32 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Tell It Right

I guess you have not seen a deep dive into total operating costs, the best equivalency figures were at 5.9 mpg for electric.


55 posted on 07/12/2022 2:27:36 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: 100%FEDUP

“(FLIR sensors, that can tell if a child is left in the car, run from $300-$4,000)”

LOL! Probably $15 each in bulk!


56 posted on 07/12/2022 2:37:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: 100%FEDUP

“.(I deeply, deeply apologize for not EXPLICITLY describing an Ignition Interlock Device but they run $75-$150)”

I don’t see anyone selling or buying somehow did you get that figure?


57 posted on 07/12/2022 2:43:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: con-surf-ative

mark


58 posted on 07/12/2022 2:43:47 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Hiddigeigei; lightman

What a boring world!!

If the elites achieved this alleged goal, they would all die of boredom!!!!

And they would leave no descendants, so some new life form (fungi?) would take over!!!!

Fortunately, God is still in charge, so that won’t happen! And Christ will raise us up on the Last Day!!!!

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%206%3A40


59 posted on 07/12/2022 2:47:21 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Nea Wood

The bidenites won’t last enough to make that happen!

And the “climate emergency” is a scam!!!!


60 posted on 07/12/2022 2:51:29 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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