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The Man Most Responsible for Ending Roe Worries That It Could Hurt His Party
The New York Times ^ | June 24, 2022 | Maggie Haberman and Michael C. Bender

Posted on 06/25/2022 8:31:59 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

The end of the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling was the culmination of decades of work by Republicans and social conservatives — one that came to pass only after a former Democrat from New York who had once supported abortion rights helped muscle through three Supreme Court justices.

Publicly, former President Donald J. Trump heralded the Supreme Court’s ruling on Friday ending federal abortion protections as a victory. Yet, as he faces possible prosecution over his efforts to subvert the 2020 election and prepares for a likely 2024 presidential campaign, Mr. Trump has privately told friends and advisers the ruling will be “bad for Republicans.”

When a draft copy of the decision leaked in May, Mr. Trump began telling friends and advisers that it would anger suburban women, a group who helped tilt the 2020 race to President Biden, and would lead to a backlash against Republicans in the November midterm elections.

In other conversations, Mr. Trump has told people that measures like the Texas state law banning most abortions after six weeks and allowing citizens to file lawsuits against people who enable abortions are “so stupid,” according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions. The Supreme Court let the measure stand in December 2021.

For the first hours after the decision was made public on Friday, Mr. Trump was muted in response, a striking contrast to the conservatives who worked in his administration, including former Vice President Mike Pence. Mr. Pence issued a statement saying, “Life won,” as he called for abortion opponents to keep fighting “in every state in the land.”

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To: MinorityRepublican

Read a factoid this morning. Not sure how accurate it is.

When asked, 5.0% of respondents stated this ruling was at
the top of their concern list.


121 posted on 06/25/2022 11:46:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Dr.Deth

Why would ANYONE believe the nyt.

Left wing RAG.


122 posted on 06/25/2022 11:46:23 AM PDT by Pearfect
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think in his own way he is.


123 posted on 06/25/2022 11:56:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JoJo354

He continues to be surrounded by backstabbers—and many of those backstabbers are more than happy to spill to the NYT.


124 posted on 06/25/2022 11:57:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Trump didn’t care about abortion, why is he the ONLY president who ever showed up in person at the March For Life?

Votes?! I don’t think so. I believe Trump has a soft spot in his heart for the defenseless.

There are New Yorkers who are pro-life. I met many of them when I went to Operation Rescue events.


125 posted on 06/25/2022 12:01:08 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

How do you know Trump isn’t religious?

Can you see into his heart?


126 posted on 06/25/2022 12:09:15 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: jmaroneps37

As far as the electoral impact of this ruling, I’ll say this:

In case RINO Don Coram can fraud his way to a Republican primary victory over Lauren Boebert next Tuesday with massive Democrat support, the media has already written the stories which will claim that Boebert was defeated by liberal voters who were enraged by the Supreme Court decision, and this is just the first evidence that Democrats will massively increase their House and Senate majorities in November.


127 posted on 06/25/2022 12:28:53 PM PDT by PermaRag (We have SO many targets, and -- for now -- the means to see they get what they deserve.)
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To: facedown

Young women don’t vote at all…. Usually. Hard to say if this decision will change that in the fall. Logically, the fallout should be at the state level where the abortion decisions are now going to be made.


128 posted on 06/25/2022 12:34:24 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Huskrrrr

The USSC is a huge issue but abortion should have always been a state decision.


129 posted on 06/25/2022 12:45:52 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: MinorityRepublican
The Democrats now have an issue to mobilize their voters in the midterms

Except they DON'T.

and they've pivoted away from Joe Biden's failings as the POTUS.

Most voters are not “pivoting “ anywhere. Everybody (apart from the very rich) is very angry about very high food and gas prices and super high crime and murder rates.

Female voters are not happy about ending Roe vs Wade and they'll vote for the blue team in November.

Normal female voters don't want to murder the babies in their wombs.

Just my .02

Your 2 cents is not worth anything.
Wanna try again?

130 posted on 06/25/2022 12:58:41 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: PermaRag
In case RINO Don Coram can fraud his way to a Republican primary victory over Lauren Boebert next Tuesday with massive Democrat support

Not gonna happen.

131 posted on 06/25/2022 1:04:03 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Normal female voters don't want to murder the babies in their wombs.

Have you encountered soccer moms at grocery stores? Maybe not where you live but in Atlanta suburbs or Phoenix?

Most voters are not “pivoting “ anywhere. Everybody (apart from the very rich) is very angry about very high food and gas prices and super high crime and murder rates.

Yes and no. Democrats are very passionate about abortion. It'll bring out their base. And appeal to some of independents they were losing due to the economy.

I think we'll have to watch DeSantis and take a look at what he's doing in Florida. I doubt he'll do a total ban. He might settle somewhere between 15 weeks to 30 weeks. So he can appease his base yet at the same time appeal to independents. So far, DeSantis is on the ball. We'll see if he'll fumble this one.

Your 2 cents is not worth anything.

Never said you had to keep it. ;)

132 posted on 06/25/2022 1:11:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Rabid abortion advocates were already ginned up to vote.

The 2022 election will be decided by the economy.

People vote for their money.

That is cynical but true.

A bad economy tends to result in the party in power nationally being turned out of power nationally.


133 posted on 06/25/2022 1:20:25 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: bimboeruption
How do you know Trump isn’t religious?

Can you see into his heart?

Two Corinthians ring any bells? Inability to identify any book in the Bible?

Regardless, it doesn't matter. I voted for a President and not a Pastor.

134 posted on 06/25/2022 1:21:38 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: MinorityRepublican
Have you encountered soccer moms at grocery stores? Maybe not where you live but in Atlanta suburbs or Phoenix?

Fortunately I never lived in Atlanta. But then I lived in NJ and NYC for a long time.
Are there far left crazies? Yup.
But then abortion is STILL fully available in NJ and NYC and blue states so what's the problem?

Yes and no. Democrats are very passionate about abortion. It'll bring out their base. And appeal to some of independents they were losing due to the economy

Democrats in deep blue states are still getting abortion. But then everybody’s suffering from super high food and gas prices, and the murder/crime rates in deep blue states/cities have skyrocketed.
Those count far more than abortion which they are still getting in deep blue states anyway.

135 posted on 06/25/2022 1:22:01 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: MinorityRepublican
I think we'll have to watch DeSantis and take a look at what he's doing in Florida. I doubt he'll do a total ban.

DeSantis will win. Easily. The Dems don't really have anyone worthwhile running against him.
And DeSantis already signed a bill limiting abortion to 15 weeks only recently.

136 posted on 06/25/2022 1:25:46 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
And DeSantis already signed a bill limiting abortion to 15 weeks only recently.

Not a total ban. Something a majority of voters can live with.

137 posted on 06/25/2022 1:27:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SmokingJoe

“Not gonna happen.”

I certainly hope not.

But this isn’t Wyoming, where conservatives probably outnumber the sum of Democrats and RINOs; Cheney is D.O.A. and she knows it. This isn’t like MTG’s heavily-Republican district in Georgia either.

Boebert’s a prime target and her district is a somewhat marginal one — R+8 now but no way is all of that “R” conservative — with lots of Democrats and RINOs who hate Boebert every bit as much or more than we hate Liz Cheney. Unlike Wyoming, conservatives do not outnumber the sum of Democrats + RINOs here, and Democrats have made this primary a holy crusade. Boebert got 51% in November of 2020, good enough to win but hardly a landslide.

The liberal media has been encouraging Democrats for weeks if not months to cross over and oust Boebert, and it’s far from guaranteed that they will fail.

In a fair election, with votes counted honestly instead of by the Soros stooge who is Colorado’s Secretary of State, Boebert would win easily. She may still do so, but a landslide either now or in November is unlikely.


138 posted on 06/25/2022 1:49:39 PM PDT by PermaRag (We have SO many targets, and -- for now -- the means to see they get what they deserve.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Liars.


139 posted on 06/25/2022 2:19:45 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: DoodleDawg

I don’t believe Trump can’t name one book in the Bible. Everybody and their mother can name Genesis.


140 posted on 06/25/2022 2:50:39 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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