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Republicans need a leader without Trump’s 2020 obsession
New York Post ^ | June 19, 2022 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 06/19/2022 4:16:18 PM PDT by karpov

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To: karpov

Are these folks so stupid as to not realize if HE doesn’t keep his foot on the necks of these frauds , nothing will change and the steals will continue? Anyone that not will to fight with him does not deserve a nomination


41 posted on 06/19/2022 4:46:42 PM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: karpov

Lowry was never a Trump fan. I was never a Lowry fan.

Trump will win. 100%. Lowry can continue being one of the never-Trumpers.


42 posted on 06/19/2022 4:47:20 PM PDT by adorno
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To: ProudGOP

Trump may not have the personality needed. It would be nice to see him pick a VP who does, and allow him to do what needs to be done.

He should study up on Patton. That is what America needs. Join the battle and wade into them.


43 posted on 06/19/2022 4:48:34 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: karpov

Can’t agree with much of anything Lowry is saying, however, I do think if Trump announces he’s running, he should probably drop it at that point and concentrate on campaigning for 2024.


44 posted on 06/19/2022 4:48:43 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: karpov

We are tired of “reaching across the aisle” only to get our arms cut off. No more. We have a freaking mess right now and the whole thing can be traced directly to the Demoncrats and the GOPeahens who are on the take and who spit at the Citizens whom they were supposedly elected to represent. We are done, Deja Fini, over and out.


45 posted on 06/19/2022 4:49:35 PM PDT by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: karpov

I’m of two minds. DeSantis will be a tougher target than Trump should he become the nominee. One advantage DeSantis has over Trump is that the Left can’t continually try him over J6 and DeSantis can point out as eloquently what the party needs to do in 2025 and beyond to keep the majority in Congress I hope we win this fall. Plus, he’s younger so the comparisons between him and Biden in health and vibrancy will be obvious to everyone. DeSantis was also consistently on the right side of COVID.

I’ll enthusiastically support Trump or DeSantis, don’t get me wrong. A big “no” to any Romney, Ryan or the rest of the RINO herd. I do think, however, that the Dems are hoping to hell that DeSantis isn’t on the ticket.


46 posted on 06/19/2022 4:49:57 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (No food in the stores; fuel prices too high? Thank a liberal.)
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To: karpov
uh..NO Rich, America needs a MAN who is willing to FIGHT for election integrity!

If you believe there was no significant fraud, then you're an idiot.

If you believe our Constitutional Republican can withstand letting this fraud pass without consequences....then you're an idiot.

47 posted on 06/19/2022 4:50:52 PM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: OrangeHoof

Trump is the safe pick for 2024. After the disaster coming, we need a proven person. No more rookies at this time

People will vote for Trump as the safe pick..as crazy as it sounds but it is true


48 posted on 06/19/2022 4:51:48 PM PDT by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!S)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

>>> The Constitution dies on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009 when ALL of our elected and appointed swore in the ineligible Kenyan from Indonesia.

I guess you could say that... not much difference I guess.

This election was just so in-your-face obviously fraudulent though.

I don’t really doubt that We The People actually voted for Obama.


49 posted on 06/19/2022 4:52:03 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: karpov

Sounds like a ‘Rat RINO cuck.


50 posted on 06/19/2022 4:52:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: karpov
Trump needs to take a lesson from Rudy Giuliani -- Rudy lost in NYC in 89 and thought the Dems cheated. Instead of harping on it, he made sure it didn't happen again, and got his two terms.

Trump can run again only because he wasn't declared the winner. Move forward. Learn from last time. Don't let them do it again.

As for voters, I cannot believe anyone who says that Trump has lost his support. He had a record turnout in 2020, beaten only by the number posted for Biden. What in the past two years has happened that would encourage any Trump 2020 voter to vote for Biden -- or his replacement -- in 2024? Contrast that with Biden's performance which can actually be measured against Trump's performance.

The voters can see what kind of job each president did. The only wildcard is a Democrat replacement -- except that they'll want to continue Biden's policies, or they'll claim the problem was that Biden didn't go far enough!

But there isn't a replacement out there right now. No one that can rival Trump. Whoever out there on right-wing talk that posited that the only one who could tear away enough Trump voters would be Michelle Obama, yeah, I think they're a little crazy, but also a little sane. Maybe there's one other person out there that can whip up excitement among Dems and get them to turn out to vote. But if there is, we haven't seen them peak yet. And when they do, they'll have to get past the usual suspects, plus Bernie, and Hillary. (I don't care what she says -- as soon as it looks like Biden is fading, she's in it again.)

51 posted on 06/19/2022 4:53:32 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either)
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To: karpov
Voter fraud is a pretty lame issue to build a campaign on when you need to convince people to come vote for you.

Luckily for Republicans, the Democrats have no leader.
52 posted on 06/19/2022 4:55:30 PM PDT by Observator
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To: karpov
Years ago and at a young age in business I spoke up against a plant manager who was screwing a few girls under his management but worse of all, was taking a few “bonuses” from vendors putting them ahead of the queue that made-no sense, producing things that were of no benefit to us.

I ultimately was right about the guy and he was fired - have been speaking out ever since on things that just don’t add up - to hell with what other people think.

53 posted on 06/19/2022 4:56:19 PM PDT by capydick (“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.)
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To: karpov

We Don’t need Lowry to tell Us wHAT WE WANT.

Another media know all hack.


54 posted on 06/19/2022 4:59:42 PM PDT by Pearfect
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To: Safrguns

The Kenyanesian Usurpation led directly to the Big Steal.


55 posted on 06/19/2022 5:00:06 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: karpov

Boy, they are really going out of their way to try to get Trump not to run. They’re afraid now because Trump now knows how the deep state really works, the tricks they play and now he knows where to investigate where he’d ever to get into office again he would start dismantling their whole system. And they would deserve it.


56 posted on 06/19/2022 5:00:44 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum )
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To: karpov

They mean a chicken hearted, democrat-lite type.

No one WE want


57 posted on 06/19/2022 5:02:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: toddausauras
I have no use for a candidate who thinks 2020 was fair.

Me either. None whatsoever. I want a candidate who will fight for fair elections and fight for what's right - no more McConnell-like subservient Republicans.

58 posted on 06/19/2022 5:03:34 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: karpov

Rick Lowry of National Review, the Trump hating neocon HQ says we need to move on from the 2020 election. I say FU National Review and up yours with a red hot poker to Rick Lowry.


59 posted on 06/19/2022 5:03:47 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: karpov

Great. Just what we need. A never Trump a-hole telling us that we shouldn’t support Trump.

What we should do is not listen to Rich Lowery.


60 posted on 06/19/2022 5:05:00 PM PDT by stratboy
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