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When The Lies Come Home (Ukraine)
The American Conservative ^ | June 17, 2022 | Douglas Macgregor

Posted on 06/18/2022 2:55:12 PM PDT by Fido969

After lying for months, the media are preparing the public for Ukraine’s military collapse.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10percent4dabigguy; 12percent4dabigguy; 202206; alloverbutthecrying; anotherneoconfail; bidenacommie; disgoanbegud; douglasmacgregor; kosovo; macgregor; mediabias; putin; russia; serbia; thecatsontheroof; ukraine; wesleyclark
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To: Socon-Econ

Moreover, the sanctions are hurting Americans as much as the Russians.


21 posted on 06/18/2022 3:35:21 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Reaganez
Complete Bovine Feces.

Because this neo-clown REMF says so...😂

22 posted on 06/18/2022 3:39:35 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Travis McGee

That’s the hurt locker I imagined.
I couldn’t believe those dropping their life to go kill Russians.


23 posted on 06/18/2022 3:40:33 PM PDT by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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To: House Atreides

Ukraine hasn’t lost a battle and Putin impregnates dogs. That’s the word here.


24 posted on 06/18/2022 3:43:33 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: ruiner

All the heavy handed propaganda was extreme. The word Ukraine was placed with a positive adjective like “Brave,” “Heroic,” or “Freedom Loving,” and Russian were placed with a negative adjective like “Savage,” “ Brutal,” “Cruel,” or “Blood thirsty.” Classic, It still exist. Both sides are not worthy of respect. Notice they do not use the word “Russian” now—they are “Putinists” Just as in World War Two we called the Germans “Nazis” even if many of the Germans didn’t belong to the Nazi Party. The Germans didn’t call us Democrats because FDR belonged to that party>?


25 posted on 06/18/2022 3:43:58 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Travis McGee

Got any idea if there’s a version of the Spetsnaz Song with English subtitles?


26 posted on 06/18/2022 3:45:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Socon-Econ

The Russians are hardly feeling the sanctions. In fact, Russia is benefiting in many ways. Europe, OTH, is being destroyed economically and through floods of refugees resulting from food supply disruptions (from the south) and the war (from the east).


27 posted on 06/18/2022 4:00:47 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Fido969

Has anyone seen the poster with the Chinese screen name pinging his pro-Ukrainian propaganda list?

Rhetorical question.


28 posted on 06/18/2022 4:26:30 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: achilles2000

The refugee issue pales in comparison to their energy skyrocketing or getting switched off altogether.


29 posted on 06/18/2022 4:31:21 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: BobL

Like those of you who cheer the spread of the Hammer and Sickle and the multiplication of plazas named after Lenin. The rest of us like Cossacks who have spirit and resist tyranny.


30 posted on 06/18/2022 4:33:47 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Educate yourself....

https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1518074286929588224


31 posted on 06/18/2022 5:05:25 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Destroyer Sailor

The big lie was that Ukraine was gonna win.

It is still a big lie.

All the rest is just background noise.


32 posted on 06/18/2022 5:07:21 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Cathi

I have friends and family there. None of them are Nazis. But they describe plenty of Nazi-like behavior in the Russian occupied areas. My wife is a Russian-speaker from the Donbas. You are indeed supporting the spread of the Hammer and Sickle and Stalinist oppression in the Donbas.


33 posted on 06/18/2022 5:10:32 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: AAABEST

I saw that, and my name was on it. One of FRs own Soros-supporting brownshirts.


34 posted on 06/18/2022 5:21:21 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Monterrosa-24

I don’t think anyone here is for “spreading the hammer and sickle.” We’re simply for the truth.

And whether one likes Russia or not, Ukraine is getting it’s butt kicked. To say anything else is repeating Soros propaganda.


35 posted on 06/18/2022 5:27:14 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

its not it’s. Autocorrect is persistent.


36 posted on 06/18/2022 5:29:04 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

No, there no non-aligned state in this conflict. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. The eleven-time-zone country is getting its teeth kicked in by the one-time-zone country. That is why after four months of war, Kharkov and Kiev still stand independent from Russian oppression. It is David over Goliath. Russian is gaining some acreage but it ain’t over. Russian evil is being exposed.


37 posted on 06/18/2022 5:33:43 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

So you ignored that the Nazi in a TV interview explained that 1.5 million people must be exterminated just because your friends and relatives aren’t Nazi’s?

Perhaps these links to videos of Ukrainian troops would be interesting to you (and your friends and family.)

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1507975823290216448

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1507975846384082945

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1508777630836969474/photo/3

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1513064617974583297

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1511249667639713793

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1511288598791958532

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1511288747102552071

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/04/03/testimony-mariupol-hospital-ukrainian-deceptions-media-malpractice/

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510871011025117184

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510875815604543488

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510516812512964623

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1509857425163177987

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1508709175509061636

The French medic who went to Ukraine to help the Ukrainians was shocked at all the war crimes he personally saw the Ukrainians commit. He is personally putting himself in danger by reporting this. He even covers the shelling at Bucca and indicates it came from the Ukrainians.

He personally watched and filmed the Ukrainians taking Russian POWs from vans carrying 3 or 4 at a time...asking them if they were officers. If they said no they were shot in the knee. If they said yes they were shot in the head.

He told the French government about it and the French media. They wouldn’t touch it because it went against the narrative the West is pushing.

And then there is this incident which just happened a few days ago.
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During the special military operation, the Ukrainian army continues to suffer significant losses .

❗️I would like to emphasize that in recent weeks, incidents of shooting Ukrainian servicemen in the back by nationalist units have become more frequent in the areas of hostilities . So, after conducting fire preparations for the offensive of Russian troops in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Novomikhailovka (DPR), more than 30 servicemen of the 25th battalion of the 54th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to lay down their arms and surrender.

◾️The Ukrainian servicemen, who occupied a stronghold in the area of ​​the Animal Farm , braced themselves by radio to the command of the Russian unit to cease fire and provide an exit corridor. At about 10 p.m., servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with white flags began to advance towards the Russian positions .

◾️At that moment, a detachment of Ukrainian nationalists , who arrived at the strong point on armored vehicles, opened crossfire at the servicemen of the 54th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the back .
As a result of this shooting , 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed .

◾️This incident, like many others like it, clearly shows that against the backdrop of growing military failures and the demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kiev nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of detachments .

◾️The lives of Ukrainian servicemen and mobilized fighters of territorial defense units mean nothing to the current leadership of Ukraine.


And you try to hang the behavior from 70-100 years ago of Stalin (born in Georgia, head of the Soviet Union) on the heads of the intelligent, knowledgeable posters here have actually taken the time to research the conflict and the opposing forces. I think it is time for you to update your informational base.

Putin has been in power for most of the last 19 years and still has the support of up to 80% of Russians. The definition of tyranny, by the way, is cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. It is quite apparent that Russians living under his leadership do not share your view of him.

Last, but not least, I am a patriotic American. Not patriotic about our Deep State government. Patriotic about what America WAS and what I hope it will be AGAIN once we rid ourselves of “the new world order” “globalization” “world central government under elites.”

Vladimir Putin is our best hope for that happening. Not because he is doing anything for us specifically; but because he is defeating the Deep State, which truly is the enemy of the American people.


38 posted on 06/18/2022 5:52:14 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: cgbg

Powerline column which references a brutal Asia Times article:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/whither-ukraine.php

Asia Times seems to have a pro-China bent, but the article is devastating.


39 posted on 06/18/2022 6:19:57 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

Don’t be a sockpuppet for either side.


40 posted on 06/18/2022 6:30:12 PM PDT by x
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