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Russia's army could COLLAPSE amid huge losses of more than 30,000 troops - which Putin believes is a 'price worth paying' for victory in Ukraine, confidential UK report says
The Daily Mail ^ | 30 May 2022 | CHRIS JEWERS

Posted on 05/30/2022 8:18:09 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MalPearce

... it’s not as if we’re comparing one prolific false narrative with one well researched counter-narrative.

We are comparing one highly evidenced, thorough, forensic count with one that someone at the Kremlin wrote on a beermat based on no real numbers at all.

There was one occasion where a press source published Rusfia’s casualty estimate based on intel from Ukraine and DPR. It was pulled from thrir website within half an hour because people can’t even be allowed to see what the other side is claiming based on verified data.


61 posted on 05/31/2022 1:07:41 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lol


62 posted on 05/31/2022 1:36:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the same posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good ole Daily Mail still cranking out the standard 3-4 propaganda pieces per day despite the Uke army visibly crumbling around them.


63 posted on 05/31/2022 2:40:13 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

LOL, Russians could be marching through downtown Kiev, and the DM would say they are on the verge of collapse.


64 posted on 05/31/2022 2:57:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Ghost of Kiev killed all 30,000. The Daily Mail is into comic book type propaganda when it comes to this war.


65 posted on 05/31/2022 3:32:49 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: packagingguy

Stop with the 40B BS - they are getting less than 10B. 20 B goes to refuges in other countries, 11 B goes to rebuild US arms stocks, <9 B goes to Ukraine for arms.


66 posted on 05/31/2022 3:39:14 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cathi

The attack was on open ground and they suffered large losses and retreated

As of yesterday, the UA is still holding the ground they took on the south side of the river; the Orc counter attack was repulsed.


67 posted on 05/31/2022 3:42:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cathi

by the forces of one battalion tactical group with the support of artillery

Since the Orcs use neither the term nor the make up of the fictional ‘BTG’, this story is another made up hit piece to please a western audience of Orc supporters.


68 posted on 05/31/2022 3:45:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

“Stop with the 40B BS - they are getting less than 10B. 20 B goes to refuges in other countries, 11 B goes to rebuild US arms stocks, <9 B goes to Ukraine for arms.”

If I understand this correctly...
20B goes to Ukrainian refugees...in other countries
11B goes to the U.S. MIL to replace weapons...that we gave to Ukraine
9B goes directly to Ukraine

How is that NOT 39B to Ukraine?


69 posted on 05/31/2022 3:57:33 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

30,350 Russian soldiers have been killed


Would suggest 60,700 total KIA, MIA, Wounded, and POW loss; likely most losses were from artillery shelling.


70 posted on 05/31/2022 4:01:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: familyop

Thanks.... I looked at the second video


71 posted on 05/31/2022 4:15:21 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MinorityRepublican

Straw meet clutch.


72 posted on 05/31/2022 4:25:51 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Nifster

There are a lot of people in this country who would fight beyond the official retirement age for soldiers too. That said, getting willing volunteers is always better than conscripts; already trained and some refresher training and small arms qualification then off to the front.


73 posted on 05/31/2022 6:02:31 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Russia doesnt give a crap about 30,00 causalities (even if these numbers are right). They took well over 200,000 in their failed Afghanistan campaign. And World War II, we dont go there. Communists don’t care at all about how many people they get killed, even their own soldiers.


74 posted on 05/31/2022 6:09:02 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Haha, I don’t know what’s more absurd: Western war propaganda or stupid Americans that believe it!


75 posted on 05/31/2022 7:01:22 AM PDT by Bull Man
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To: Jonty30

That is about three divisions of trained people. That has to hurt.


76 posted on 05/31/2022 7:12:26 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: MalPearce

Whoever thought - politically weaponized body counts.


77 posted on 05/31/2022 10:14:28 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: Rennes Templar; MalPearce; MercyFlush; PIF; All

Body counts were a big deal in the Vietnam War news, especially counts of the enemy dead. If Russia already has 30,000 dead in 4 months, just compare that with US Vietnam dead of almost 60,000 during 10 to 20 years fighting there. And we had roound twice the population then as Russia has now. Imagine the popular reaction in Russia if they had the news coverage we had during Vietnam.


78 posted on 05/31/2022 11:21:29 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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To: buwaya

Nope. Vlads throwing in the T 64s. And he’s dragooning pretty much every Russian male form 16 to 60 into the army.

Ivan’s really screwed the pooch on this one.


79 posted on 05/31/2022 11:51:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: gleeaikin
Russia control the Black Sea coastline from Mariupol to Crimea. That is most of it.

I would strongly suspect that, unless Ukraine surrenders very soon, the Russians will take Odessa and control all of the Black Sea coastline.

80 posted on 05/31/2022 12:24:06 PM PDT by Kazan
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