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Andrew Follett says ‘the media is telling you two major lies’ about mass shootings and gun control Posted at 6:23 pm on May 25, 2022 by Brett T.
We forget who said yesterday — maybe a senator or congressman — that the availability of guns is what makes the United States an outlier in mass shootings, not mental health. Every country has its share of sickos, but in the United States, it’s easier for those sickos to get their hands on an assault rifle because there are just so many of them available.
Andrew Follett of the Club for Growth posted a lengthy thread Wednesday on “two major lies” the media is telling us about mass shootings and gun control. The idea, of course, is that Europe, for example, has strong gun control laws and therefore fewer if any mass shootings. People are tweeting all sorts of graphs about the numbers of mass shootings in different countries, but add them up, and the United States isn’t quite the shooting gallery that the media and Democrats make it out to be.
A thread on how the media is telling you two major lies about mass shootings and gun control
1: Other countries with vastly stricter gun laws than the US have higher rates of mass shootings.
2: US jurisdictions w/ gun laws have exponentially higher rates of gun violence#2A
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Although events in the U.S. tend to get the lion's share of media exposure, mass shootings are clearly a worldwide issue.
The US makes up about 1.15% of the world's mass shootings while having almost 5% of the world's population. pic.twitter.com/ZveoRG8InU
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Out of 97 countries with data, the US is 64th in frequency of mass shootings and 65th in murder rate.
And rates of mass shootings elsewhere are rising faster pic.twitter.com/SRrC1YYFod
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
4 times as many per capita died in mass shootings in FRANCE as in the US. 21 times in Norway.
In addition to those fairly nice nations, Finland, Germany, Israel, Italy, Spain, and Switzerland have higher mass shooting death rates. pic.twitter.com/pfFck8vW6m
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
All of those are pretty nice countries which MUCH stricter gun control laws than the US…and all have higher per capita deaths from mass shootings than the US.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
According to this 2018 study (surveying data over an 18 year period), the US is 64th in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita (which sounds far worse than it is…because all the countries in gray below didn't report data.) https://t.co/VHcQAgkl3n
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
If anything our policy structure is actually pretty good at preventing this by global standards…especially relative to fairly nice countries of the type we want to compare America to.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
2: The highest gun-ownership state with the loosest gun laws in the nation is Wyoming, where 59.7% of households have a gun (really!)
Wyoming gun laws are arguably the LEAST restrictive in the United States.https://t.co/bCTb9o0CX8
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Wyoming does NOT HAVE a gun homicide problem, with a rate of only 1.4 per 100,000–actually lower than right across the border in more gun-controlled Canada– and only about a third of that of the nation as a whole.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
The highest murder rate of any jurisdiction in the US is Washington, DC, which has a murder rate of 21.8 per 100,000… more than twenty times that of most European countries!
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
But DC also has the most restrictive gun laws in the country… and the lowest rates of legal gun ownership, with numbers less than in many European states!https://t.co/sVyAIuGzlq
[Gulp]
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
I'd say that data suggests that the factors making DC have such high gun violence rates are part of the story of why America as a whole is so deadly, but these cannot include high gun ownership or a lack of gun regulation…by definition.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
If stricter gun laws reduced gun violence rates, you'd expect jurisdictions with those laws to have lower rates of gun violence.
Instead, we find quite the opposite.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Now, maybe you think "of course those jurisdictions have higher gun violence rates, that's why they enacted the laws."
I doubt that…but the data is CLEAR that those laws haven't reduced the rates.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
The factors making DC so deadly are part of the story of why America as a whole is so deadly, but these cannot include high gun ownership.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
And blaming this on Republicans' (which Libs made trend ALL of yesterday is…stupid.
Washington DC hasn't had a Republican mayor since literally 1933…and hasn't had a single Republican on its city council since 2008. https://t.co/4SAXpcG0MB.https://t.co/HKQCQH0pgm pic.twitter.com/W3XcQEOSim
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
The same thing is true of ALL the cities with REALLY BAD gun homicide rates.
In 2019:
St Louis, 64.54 murders per 100k, last GOP Mayor left in 1949
Its the 9th most violent city in the world. pic.twitter.com/LIJhKVsyI7
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
The murder rate in Baltimore is 58.27 per 100,000.
Its the 11th most violent city in the world…and has VERY strict gun laws. pic.twitter.com/nqOHI8sRnM
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
This goes and and on down the list…check it for yourself.
I stopped looking for a Republican mayor after a while because it was all Dems forever. https://t.co/JvoEiSouti
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Yet…as I noted yesterday…
Libs PRIMARY RESPONSE is to blame the GOP for this…when they are LITERALLY THE ONES IN CHARGE of the cities choking under gun violence. https://t.co/I9r1cu82ig
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Yep. Republicans are the problem, and yet who runs Washington, D.C., New York City, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, etc.? Of course, liberals have found a workaround; they claim that all of the illegal guns in, say, Chicago, are brought in from neighboring states with less strict gun control laws. Even if that’s true, the gun control laws on the books aren’t doing much to stop it.
What an amazing thread, thank you for posting!!!
— David Camarillo (@DJ_Camarillo) May 25, 2022
Best thread I've read in a very LONG time. Thank you.
— Daniel Yugami Hites (@Dealing4Aces) May 25, 2022
Stop with all the facts!! They go against the narrative! Great roll up. Kudos
— Shaun Smith (@Limitsduckcalls) May 25, 2022
Too soon for this tweet. I'm just crying for 4th graders today.
— Dane Witbeck (@DaneWitbeck) May 25, 2022
I actually intentionally waited to do this till today to give a bit of distance.
I understand your point though.
— Andrew Follett (@AndrewCFollett) May 25, 2022
Plus it’s the anniversary of George Floyd’s murder, who was shot by police — have some respect.
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Gun Control. A steady hand and a calm dead aim.
I added two more last week.
Thread Reader App version which allows downloading as pdf file. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529577076419923968.html
premium members only for pdf. Seems like it used to be free.
I suppose that it would also be racist to note that Wyoming has two significant minority populations-- Native Americans and Basque. Muslims? Not so many.
ONLY 59.7% of Wyoming households? With lions and bears and wolves around? With the Sheriff 45 minutes away? I am skeptical.
(I am skeptical of surveys regarding household gun ownership, because I doubt that most people will answer that question from anonymous caller. Just as I doubt that most people will give their credit card numbers, Social Security numbers, passwords, etc. an anonymous caller.)
The violent crime rate in the U.S. is often compared to that in countries such as Norway.
The violent crime rate in the U.S. among Norwegian-Americans is comparable to that of Norway.
Just sayin’.
It's 2022. Truth is racist.
Appalachia has a poverty problem, but it doesn't have a violent crime problem.
https://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto
wow
59.7 reflects those who will say they have a firearm in the house...
Thanks for posting these facts. Folks are ignorant of facts like these. Learned yesterday that illegals kill an average of 12 people a day, nearly 10,000 people a year. Mass shootings are terrible, and high profile, and themedia make it seem like it’s happening very frequently, and they get everyone hyped up about them because of the heanoius nature of the acts on groups of kids all at once, but mass shooters don’t kill nearly as many people as illegals do, and nowhere near as frequently. We go for years sometimes without shootings, but illegals kill every single day in this country apparently, and the media ignores it. Illegals,have wiped out entire families, killed far more kids than sicko mass shooters, and Noone gets hyped up about that fact.
The facts posted above should be studied by every republican congresperson so,that thst show some actual interest in the issue in order to educate the public and to,put things in perspective. They also need to point out that we don’t have a gun problem in this country, we have a common sense problem and security problem because of the lack of co mon sense. We create gun free zones, a d mass shooters have proven over and over thst they go to schools because they know they won’t face any immediate backlash or resistance, yet the left still refuse to correct the problem by getting adequate firepower by trained officers and teachers
If we secured our schools, there wouldn’t be nearly as many maggots trying to shoot them up because they would be smart enough to realize they may be killed very quickly if,they tried. The few that would still try, the more mentally stable ones, would further be hi Derek by the security measures created to stop them before they even get on the grounds. Th3 last maggot shooter got into,the school through an UNLOCKED back door- these types of things need to be addressed and corrected Immediately, in all schools.
There are plenty of things that can be done to secure schools, but democrats are not serious about fixing the problems problem, they just want an excuse to ban guns. Like the lt general of NC said “everytime there is an I cident like this you [(the media and liberals) attack the wrong people. You come after law abiding citizens and their rights instead of fixing the real problem. You want us disarmed so,that the criminals will have an easier time” essentially was the jist of his message
If you have a source for that, it would make a good thread here.
Yeah polls are far from accurate many times.
The surveyed Muslims in America once and asked how many supported jihad- v 60% said they did. You gotta wonder though if the number is higher for several,reasons. 1 many don’t want to be on record saying they did just incase they get found out 2 their religion encourages lying to “infidels”, 3 it’s very likely that the most ardent muslims support it and will answer the call when called, so,they don’t want to around suspicion and lie
They also asked about whether they thought sharia law should be the law in the us- agin over 50% said yes, with many likely supporting it but not wa ting to be on record as doing so. I suspect that many more woild welcome it here if they could.
Also,there is the problem of push polling many times. Fox was busted for it several times inmthe run up to the election- caught red handed-
Exactly, and the left know that too, but they repeat the lie over and over til, the public become brai washed o. The issue and think that millions of Americans own fully auto military grade weapons, and worse yet, the ones believing the lies are highly emotional younger generation. Brainwashed liberals who,have been so gaslighted by their fsrl left teachers that they can’t see truth even if it is standing face to face ,with them- thenhave been blinded by socialists
Agree wuth Magnum
Is there a soure for that
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