Posted on 05/25/2022 8:33:33 AM PDT by Morgana
In yet another tragic mass shooting, Salvador Ramos, 18, slaughtered 19 innocent children and two much-loved teachers at Robb Elementary school, in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday before being killed in a shoot out with a Border Patrol officer and local law enforcement.
It is the second deadliest shooting in US history after the infamous Sandy Hook massacre in 2012 - which saw 26 people killed - and has once again left people asking how someone could commit such a heinous crime.
As the country tries to make sense of the tragedy, stories about Ramos are beginning to emerge from those who knew him best, painting the picture of loner with a propensity for self-harm and violence, who was from an unstable home, including an alleged drug-using mother.
Texas State Senator Roland Gutierrez said in a local television interview that the school shooter was born in North Dakota, but attended high school in Uvalde.
Neighbors and classmates say his behavior spiraled into the bizarre and macabre as he entered his later teenage years, with one friend telling Good Morning America: 'He had scars on his face and someone asked him, 'Are you ok?' and he just said with a smile 'I did it myself, I liked how it looked.'
He began dressing in dark clothes and military boots and used his BB gun to target random people, one local claimed.
There are around 15,000 residents in Uvalde which sits roughly 80 miles west of San Antonio, around an hour's drive from the US-Mexico border.
The would-be mass murderer lived with his grandmother on Hood Street, less than three miles from the Robb Elementary school.
More than one-third of residents in the city live at or barely above the federal poverty line.
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He yelled at the shooter to stop but didn’t use his gun.
And now he deeply regrets not shooting the punk in the back.
That's cowardice. No other way to put it.
Well, that and lack of training.
Good grief.
Normalcy bias, plus shooting a suspect in the back is also, usually a career ending action.
But his career is over either way, which is why the officer now regrets not shooting the killer.
He probably would have been sued in today's climate. They say they want social workers to handle these thugs, and not proactive LEO's, and this is the outcome.
HOW DID HE AFFORD TO BUY TWO AR-15s ON HIS 18th BIRTHDAY!!
Did someone furnish him with those? Was it a member of an agency with three letters?................
One of the two ARs with sight as pictured will cost in the neighborhood of $3,000.00. Drug deals are very lucrative.
Exactly. The public has gotten exactly what they asked for.
Tragedy.
Train, train, train. It really has to be muscle memory. Do what you have to do to slow that shooter down. Practice over ands over.
If there's some small light in all this awful experience, it's that this SRO will soon be out of a job and never be employed in LE again.
Just stop.
With the perp carrying one and possible two long guns?
That SRO froze.
I’m going to wait to see the (inevitable) video. It’s entirely possible that it might have been a scenario where the officer was at one end of a long corridor, the perp was at the other end, and the SRO just yelled down the hall without being able to see (or maybe not process - people see things all the time but don’t mentally register them properly) details, then when the figure he saw ran, he didn’t think much of it. This happened a lot with SROs and hall monitors back in my high school (which was massive) and I’m told this still happens in modern high schools.
Sight may be a Chinese knockoff. Those will last a little while before they fail.
Years ago, I put a Chinese made NCStar Aimpoint clone that cost $50 on top of a Saiga 12, specifically just to see how long it took to fail. The answer was “about 25 drums of slug and 00 Buck.”
Also, AR-15s can be had for under $500 now (well, or before the current wave of Bidenflation they were). Even names like Colt and Smith and Wesson.
Why weren't the teachers armed, and trained to protect the children?
(In Israel, for example, all teachers are required to be armed.)
We have a society full of rabid animals, why isn't protecting our children the number one priority of our nation?
(Also should be noted that the town where this happened is very close to our wide open southern border-where anyone can come in-Cartels exc..)
President Trump suggested these solutions (arming teachers, increasing security guards), to school shootings, years ago.
As I recall, he asked why we have more security at our banks protecting money, than we do at schools protecting our precious children.
I'm going to guess those whom question his magic 10% number to begin with...
I read on one of the other threads that the SRO was shot (but not killed). So that may be why he failed to engage.
More information will hopefully be forthcoming, as there is some confusion on this point:
“The Texas Department of Public Safety confirmed a school police officer exchanged gunfire with the suspected shooter who unleashed fatal gunfire at Robb Elementary in Uvalde.
“ - see https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-school-shooting-sro-officer-gunfire-shooter
Other questions that will hopefully be answered:
1) How did the shooter gain access to the building (via locked door, unlocked door, etc.)?
2) Did the school make use of any materials at entry control points such as thin film laminates, bullet resistant glass, etc?
He did have a job, Only takes about $450 for a stripped down model. Lived at home, so no bills but his wants.
Early reports were that he jumped a fence while fleeing and entered an unlocked door. No reports that the school employed any hardened elements in its construction or policy.
Those, of course, are early reports and may ultimately bear no resemblance to the reality on the ground.
So....for two “stripped down models” .... NOT including any ammo or any other gear, or, his cell phone, gaming toys, etc., you’re (numbers) saying $900.00.
That is a LOT of money, for a living w/grandma 18 yo.
What was his job? How much did it pay?
Re: 197 - The facts about building security will come out, hopefully sooner rather than later.
It will, but I suspect that there’s basically going to be no significant hardening of the building - likely because they didn’t think it needed it (or maybe couldn’t afford it).
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