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To: Lazamataz
You don't want to go down this cherry-pick road, the overall numbers are brutal.


225 posted on 05/24/2022 2:58:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

I wonder how many of these countries prescribe Ritalin ect. to their kids the way the US does, kid is a little hyperactive in school the teachers recommend the parents put their kids on this crap!!!


247 posted on 05/24/2022 3:01:57 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump20162020

Bogus CNN numbers. Only 4 in Nigeria over a dozen years? Plenty of Jihadi mass killings there including at the Christian schools.


269 posted on 05/24/2022 3:12:10 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops)
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To: Trump20162020
You may need to check the accuracy of that graphic. There are statistics that call something a "school shooting" even if there are no children in attendance and it occurs in a school parking lot. Filter that graphic for the number that occurred during school hours and inside the school rooms. The number will be significantly smaller.
325 posted on 05/24/2022 3:42:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Trump20162020; _Jim

Why are you here?

You must be a troll, because I do not care if 1000 people are shot dead by a manic with a gun. We have a 2nd Amendment, and only an anti America would try to persuade conservatives that we need to rethink our laws because the left refuses to put the fear of death into those who commit violent crimes.

Everyone of those countries other than France and Canada, put violent criminal to death, and not in 20 years quickly. And as far as France is concerned, they have a lot more beheadings of innocent people than the USA does, and a lot of honor killing going on.

A few years back, a man went into a public school in China and killed 23 children with a knife. Didn’t happen again because China KILED the SOB. And again, not in 20 years, he died pretty quickly after being convicted.


345 posted on 05/24/2022 3:57:52 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Trump20162020

Speaking of cherry-picking, CNN is the worst at that.

I have things to do, but I will address your Moms-Demand-Action graphic and post, later.

Oh, by the way, we get it: You’re no friend of the Second Amendment.


358 posted on 05/24/2022 4:06:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: Trump20162020

Look at the murder rates in Central America where guns are banned. Mexico has a murder rate 10 times the US despite firearm ownership by civilians being banned.


436 posted on 05/24/2022 4:55:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Trump20162020

How can you be for Trump if you are a liberal? Anti-2A is NOT a Conservative position and that is what you have.

Move to Cuba.


463 posted on 05/24/2022 5:16:08 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Trump20162020; Trump Girl Kit Cat; Myrddin; OneVike; Lazamataz; Blood of Tyrants; Red in Blue PA; ..
In the world of investing, there is a concept of risk-minimization whereby you lower your risk of loss or volatility by spreading your eggs across several baskets. However, one risk you cannot diversity away is the "systematic risk" or the risk inherent in the system...call it market risk or whatever, the basic reality is some baseline level of risk will ALWAYS exist, and you can't avoid it.

The same applies to America, her freedoms, and insane acts of violence.

Laws that support, life, liberty, and property are right and proper. Many laws act as a deterrent and will stop people on the margin from doing bad things...this is akin to diversifying away the non-systematic risk. Thus laws criminizing murder, are right and proper.

However, gun control is targeted at the systematic risk. And what did we say about that risk, kids? Riiiiight....It is unavoidable..

In a nation like America where freedom reigns and the individual trumps the collective, dopey ideas like assault weapon bans, magazine capacity limits, monthly caps on gun purchases do not help. That's because the risk of a maniac going on a killing spree is non-diversifiable. It is idiosyncratic.

The adults in the room understand on some baseline level, in a relatively free society of 330MM people, you'll always have a few pathological maniacs who will kill. Thus, random acts of violence like this tragic shooting, are the systematic risk of a free society.

Sure, maybe some laws can help, like liberal application of the 2nd Amendment and concealed carry. However, in large measure, unless you weld a GoPro to the heads of 330MM people with central monitoring in DC (and even that wouldn't be perfect...after all people in jail still get drugs and weapons), psychos gonna psycho.

The only way to achieve the numbers Trump20122020 posted (which, by the way, need to be population adjusted), is to shred civil liberties. THAT is the ugly truth that statists suppress in these debates.

Indeed, the problem arises when pathological politicians propose legislation like gun control - aimed at the systematic risk, which by definition you can't evade/will always be there - that simply erodes the freedoms of law-abiding citizens.

Is this by design? I doubt bureaucrats are that smart, but I don't doubt the darkness of their souls.

534 posted on 05/24/2022 7:00:20 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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