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Can anyone explain to me why this was called ‘evacuation’ and not surrender?
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| May 21, 2022
| Peter Hitchens
Posted on 05/22/2022 3:49:14 PM PDT by Vlad0
I laughed out loud in Marks & Spencer when I found that they are now selling something called ‘Chicken Kyiv’. This is apparently just like their old ‘Chicken Kiev’, only with added propaganda. I am told that there is now also a ‘No Chicken Kyiv’ for vegans, without any actual chicken in it.
Not since the wild frenzy after the death of Princess Diana have I ever met such a wave of ignorant sentiment. Nobody knows anything about Ukraine. Everyone has ferocious opinions about it.
The other night I shocked a distinguished Oxford academic by informing her that the lovely, angelic, saintly, perfect Ukrainians had blocked off the water supply to Crimea in 2014. She was rightly shocked by this nasty, uncivilised act of spite, but it was far more shocking that this highly educated person did not know this important fact. In the same way almost nobody, in education, politics or journalism, knows about the nasty, racist roots of Ukrainian nationalism, the horrible history of the vicious Stepan Bandera (now a Ukrainian national hero), or the Kiev state’s discriminatory scorn for the Russian language. If Canada treated its French speakers as Ukraine treats its Russian speakers, there would be international outrage.
Worst of all is the widespread ignorance of the fact that President Volodymyr Zelensky, in my view an admirable man, was elected on a programme of peace with Russia. But when he tried to do as he had promised, he was blocked by parts of his own army, who publicly confronted him and humiliated him. At the same time his political rivals, including the neo-Nazis who very definitely do exist in Ukraine, went on the streets to denounce any sort of deal.
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Peter Hitchens is possibly the most prominent right-leaning writer in the UK these days. He writes a weekly column for the Sunday Mail's "PLUS" site.
Per Wikipedia:
Previously a socialist and supporter of the Labour Party, Hitchens became more conservative during the 1990s. He joined the Conservative Party in 1997 and left in 2003, and has since been deeply critical of the party, which he views as the biggest obstacle to true conservatism in the UK. Hitchens describes himself as a Burkean conservative, social democrat and Anglo-Gaullist.[1][2][3] His conservative Christian political views, such as his opposition to same-sex marriage and support of stricter recreational drug policies, have been met with criticism and debate in the United Kingdom.[4][5][6][7][8]
Peter Hitchens has criticised the UK's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, especially lockdowns and mandates that the public wear face masks. He has been accused of promoting misinformation about the pandemic and public health restrictions by several sources
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posted on
05/22/2022 3:49:14 PM PDT
by
Vlad0
To: Vlad0
How DARE he question the words of the Western Media!!!!
As it is, they called it an ‘evacuation’ for the first 24 hours to SOFTEN UP the Western public to the huge defeat it was for the Nazis and their puppets in Kiev. They then started sprinkling the word ‘surrender’ into their stories as videos were coming out on it.
Hard to see any other reason, and it should be noted that virtually ALL non-Western media was calling it a surrender from the start.
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posted on
05/22/2022 3:59:18 PM PDT
by
BobL
(Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
To: Vlad0
If Canada treated its French speakers as Ukraine treats its Russian speakers, there would be international outrage. Add in and independent Quebec, looking to join a military alliance with, say, China, who has arranged a coup there, and whose corrupt elites are using it for money laundering - and you will begin to understand the situation in Ukraine.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:00:21 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: BobL
There is a tight leash on America’s “Free Press”, it seems.
To: PGR88
“Add in and independent Quebec, looking to join a military alliance with, say, China, who has arranged a coup there, and whose corrupt elites are using it for money laundering - and you will begin to understand the situation in Ukraine. “
...and somehow I doubt that the US and Canada would have stood by as China opened bases there and nuked-up the country, as was being openly discussed in the case of Ukraine.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:04:02 PM PDT
by
BobL
(Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
To: Vlad0
The Democrats must have been doing some really awful stuff in Ukraine.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:06:59 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
To: PGR88
Remind me when did the French conquer Canada, enslave them for decades, murder millions, and irradiate their territory.
Ukraine has been incredibly generous to the Russians who were imported to fill the homes of murdered Ukrainians.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:07:16 PM PDT
by
Renfrew
To: Vlad0
including the neo-Nazis who very definitely do exist in UkraineWhich the MSM had no problem telling us not too long ago but now they're good Neo-Nazis.
- 15,000 Ukraine nationalists march for divisive Bandera - Jan 1 2014 - USA Today
- Is the US backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine? - Feb 25 2014 - Salon
- How the far-right took top posts in Ukraine’s power vacuum - Mar 5 2014 - Channel 4
- Rein in Ukraine's neo-fascists - Mar 6 2014 - CNN
- Denying the Far-Right Role in the Ukrainian Revolution - Mar 7 2014 - FAIR
- The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine - Mar 11 2014 - Huffpost
- Yes, There Are Bad Guys in the Ukrainian Government - Mar 18 2014 - Foreign Policy
- Analysis: U.S. Cozies Up to Kiev Government Including Far Right - Mar 30 2014 - NBCnews
- Profile: Ukraine's ultra-nationalist Right Sector - Apr 28 2014 - BBC
- The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine - May 11 2014 - Huffpost
- Fascism returns to the continent it once destroyed - May 12 2014 - TNR
- Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden - Jul 16 2014 - BBC
- Preparing for War With Ukraine’s Fascist Defenders of Freedom - Aug 30 2014 - Foreign Policy
- German TV Shows Nazi Symbols on Helmets of Ukraine Soldiers - Sep 9 2014 - NBCnews
- Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat - Sep 10 2014 - Guardian
- Volunteer Ukrainian unit includes Nazis - Mar 10 2015 - USA Today
- US House Admits Nazi Role in Ukraine - Jun 14 2015 - Consortium News
- Why Ukraine’s New Ultranationalist Party Will Not Last - Oct 19 2016 - Atlantic Council
- Ukraine's Hyper-Nationalist Military Summer Camp for Kids | NBC Left Field (vid) - Jul 13 2017 - NBCnews
- The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda - Nov 9 2017 - The Hill
- The US is Arming and Assisting Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, While Congress Debates Prohibition - Jan 18 2018 - The RealNews Network
- In Ukraine, Ultranationalist Militia Strikes Fear In Some Quarters - Jan 30 2018 - RFERL
- Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem - Mar 19 2018 - Reuters
- America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis - May 2 2018 - The Nation
- Ukraine’s Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence (And No, RT Didn’t Write This Headline) - Jun 20 2018 - Atlantic Council
- Ukraine, Anti-Semitism, Racism, and the Far Right - Oct 16 2018 - Atlantic Council
- Azov, Ukraine's Most Prominent Ultranationalist Group, Sets Its Sights On U.S., Europe - Nov 14 2018 - RFERL
- Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine - Feb 22 2019 - The Nation
- Ultranationalism in Ukraine – a photo essay - Apr 11 2019 - Guardian
- There’s One Far-Right Movement That Hates the Kremlin - Apr 17 2019 - Foreign Policy
- Is America Training Neonazis in Ukraine? - Dec 8 2019 - DailyBeast
- The Azov Regiment has not depoliticized - Mar 19 2020 - Atlantic Council
- Like, Share, Recruit: How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members - Jan 7 2021 - Time
- Profile: Who are Ukraine’s far-right Azov regiment? - Mar 1 2022 - Aljazeerah
- How Ukraine’s Jewish president Zelensky made peace with neo-Nazi paramilitaries on front lines of war with Russia - Mar 4 2022 - Grayzone
- Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't - Mar 6 2022 - NBCnews
- Right-wing Azov Battalion emerges as a controversial defender of Ukraine - Apr 6 2022 - Washington Post
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:07:58 PM PDT
by
Pollard
(If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
To: Vlad0
Absolutely zero credibility left in any news source that uses the word evacuation instead of surrender.
To: blueunicorn6
The Democrats must have been doing some really awful stuff in Ukraine.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:09:40 PM PDT
by
Pollard
(If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
To: Vlad0
“Refusal to accept such obvious reality is a sign of madness.”
They’re thick here on FR.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:12:18 PM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: Mariner
I and others were bashed for months about the things we were reading/posting about COVID. Almost all of it ended up being true in the end.
The same sources that said Trump was a Russian asset for 5 years and then lied about everything COVID are suddenly to be believed?
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:19:39 PM PDT
by
Pollard
(If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
To: Pollard
Nice photo.
Was it taken when McCain was President?
Is he still our President?
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:21:01 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
To: blueunicorn6
I think it was around 2014 when Ukraine had a revolution that Western governments and think tanks “advised” on as well as Soros. Yes, dem and repub think tanks, the US State Dept and Soros’ Open Society all teamed up to help Ukraine.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:26:39 PM PDT
by
Pollard
(If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
To: Pollard
The Democrats are in power now.
This war would never have happened if Trump was President.
The Democrats cheated to be in charge and now they’ve screwed everything up.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:31:28 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
To: Vlad0
Whenever some suckling pronounces it “KEEEEVE” I feel like punching his globo-douche face right TF in.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:32:32 PM PDT
by
AAABEST
( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
To: Pollard
Thanks for that picture, I was going to comment that it was bipartisan, but the pic does a better job by itself.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:33:54 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: blueunicorn6
Mr. McConnell was joined by Senators John Barrasso of Wyoming, a member of his leadership team and the Foreign Relations Committee; John Cornyn of Texas, a member of the Intelligence Committee; and Susan Collins of Maine, who sits on both the Intelligence Committee and the Appropriations Committee, which oversees government funding.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:35:13 PM PDT
by
sockmonkey
(Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
To: Vlad0
Peter Hitchens Column Saturday April 30, 2022"In the United Kingdom, a DSMA-Notice (Defense and Security Media Advisory Notice) is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security..."
British journalist Peter Hitchens, the contrarian conservative journalist and outspoken defender of British tradition and traditional values including a Christian aversion to war, now finds himself constrained in his work by a government order.
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Special Report: British Journalist Peter Hitchens Censored By British Government With Special Order Amidst Ukraine Tensions
May 1, 2022
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f- bloggers/4059867/posts
This means that the Brit journopuppets who ARE writing favorably about Ukraine are writing government-approved pieces.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:35:25 PM PDT
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: blueunicorn6
The Democrats were only able to cheat Senile Joe in with the assistance of Republicans.
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posted on
05/22/2022 4:36:03 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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