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Interrogation, uncertainty for surrendering Mariupol troops
AP News ^ | May 18, 2022 | OLEKSANDR STASHEVSKYI and CIARAN McQUILLAN

Posted on 05/18/2022 7:53:21 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

Nearly 1,000 last-ditch Ukrainian fighters who had held out inside Mariupol’s pulverized steel plant have surrendered, Russian said Wednesday, as the battle ... drew toward a close.

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The Ukrainian fighters trooping out of the ruined Azovstal steelworks that became the last stronghold of resistance in the city face an uncertain fate. Some were taken by the Russians to a former penal colony in territory controlled by Moscow-backed separatists.

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Russia’s main federal investigative body said it intends to interrogate the surrendering troops to “identify the nationalists” and determine whether they were involved in crimes against civilians.

The Russian parliament was scheduled to consider a resolution to ban the exchange of any Azov Regiment fighters but didn’t take up the issue Wednesday.

Also, Russia’s top prosecutor asked the country’s Supreme Court to designate Ukraine’s Azov Regiment — among the troops that made up the Azovstal garrison — as a terrorist organization.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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To: marcusmaximus

You aren’t even a Texan. Go Slobber Ukraini....


41 posted on 05/18/2022 8:36:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
Are you Ukrainian or eastern Polack?

No

42 posted on 05/18/2022 8:36:51 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Its All Over Except ...

conservatives don’t align themselves with a fascist Russia attacking sovereign nations and destroying them.

Conservatives honor treaties and protect others from getting attacked by hostile nations.

Good thing the Ukes are kicking Russia’s ass though right?
Didn’t think you’d see your sorry Russian military get destroyed...lol


43 posted on 05/18/2022 8:38:47 AM PDT by KOZ. ( )
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To: DesertRhino
I could list a string of equally unsavory characters on the Russian side. It’s not a question of freedom per se — Ukraine isn’t exactly a bastion of freedom, nor is Russia. Consistent US policy, supported and managed by such men as Ronald Reagan, has been to prevent exactly what has finally happened — Russiangoing hot. Now that it’s happened, the situation needs to be returned to the pre-war status. We may disagree on how best to get there but cheering on Russian annexation efforts isn’t going to cool the situation.

Putin appears to be some sort of pedo creep as well. I suppose those supporting russian actions in Ukraine also support “globohomo.”

44 posted on 05/18/2022 8:39:55 AM PDT by TheDandyMan
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To: DesertRhino

Santa Anna to McArdle, March 16, 1874

Letter Explaining Why the Alamo Defenders Had to Be Killed

Mexico March 19, 1874 Mr. H.A. McArdle Independence, Texas

Dear Sir: In
response to your favor of the 4th of January, I have to say that in regard to
the restitution or restoration of the fortress of the Alamo, in April 1836 there
is but little I can add to what was said in my official dispatches, and what was
notorious. Notwithstanding, for your satisfaction, I will add that, that conflict
of arms was bloody, because the chief Travis, who commanded the forces of
the Alamo, would not enter into any capitulation, and his responses were
insulting, which made it imperative to assault the fort before it could be
reinforced by Samuel Houston who was marching to its succor with
respectable forces. The obstinancy of Travis and his soldiers was the cause of
the death of the whole of them, for not one would surrender. The struggle
lasted more than two hours, and until the ramparts were resolutely scaled by
Mexican soldiers.

Hoping this explanation will fill your wishes and that you will be satisfied of my
good disposition to be truthful, as I am your obedient servant A.L. de Santa Anna


45 posted on 05/18/2022 8:39:56 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: DesertRhino

nice try, the whole ‘everybody is a nazi except for russia’ is getting old don’t you think?

you need new talking points....since most know that there are Russia is loaded with nazis.


46 posted on 05/18/2022 8:40:20 AM PDT by KOZ. ( )
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To: DesertRhino

Santa Anna = The Mexican Putin.


47 posted on 05/18/2022 8:41:39 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: TheDandyMan

You need to brush up on world geo-politics.


48 posted on 05/18/2022 8:43:12 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: KOZ.

Are you from Lichtenstein? Or do you think they were cowards who leveled cities in Iraq and Afghanistan and then ran away in disgrace?


49 posted on 05/18/2022 8:50:15 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Well, I don’t know what lichtenstein has to do with iraq or afghanistan.

But what I do know is that your russian military is hilariously incompetent. LOL!!

I mean did you even expect the russian military to be that bad?

How much armor did you lose today?


50 posted on 05/18/2022 8:54:04 AM PDT by KOZ. ( )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
the coup in 2014 of a legally elected president of Ukraine violated another agreement.

How is it a "coup" when the duly elected Parliament votes overwhelmingly to remove their President? Would it be a coup in our country if 78% of the Senate voted to remove the President as part of an impeachment? The answer is no, that would be doing exactly what the constitution allows.

After Yanukovych lost support of their Parliament and left office a new election was held.

51 posted on 05/18/2022 8:57:09 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: TheDandyMan
NO.

I've read your posts.

52 posted on 05/18/2022 8:57:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: KOZ.

Incompetent, contrary to what military? Still listening to the media making up crap on the fly. Russia is going to win it, something the NATO militaries can’t do against opponents much weaker than Ukraine.


53 posted on 05/18/2022 8:58:51 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: KOZ.

If the have SS tattoos, wear the emblem of the 2nd SS on their chest, and venerate Bandera as their hero, they are nazi.
Hell, they even say they are nazi.


54 posted on 05/18/2022 8:58:52 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: All

Someone above noted Russian abortion rate is too high for conservative support.

As of 2019, Russian abortion total was 621,000. Total population is 146 million and falling. This is a rate of
621K/146M = 0.0043 per person but that’s largely silly since it should be limited to women of child bearing age. But that’s the easiest number.

Abortion reporting in the US is profoundly uneven. The latest count from CDC is 800K, and explicitly excludes California, Maryland and New Hampshire. Additionally, DC and New Jersey do not require reporting, but some counties do. Also, all other states comply in an entirely arbitrary way. CDC says the count is certain to be an undercount by a large amount because California’s rate is very high in surveys. The US has a 330M population. More than 2X Russia, so the 800K count would have to rise to more than 1.3 million to be more abortions than Russia. Given Calif, it’s possible.

I had never looked at this before. I did not know the US essentially refuses to tabulate this data.


55 posted on 05/18/2022 9:00:13 AM PDT by Owen
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To: TheDandyMan

“I’m baffled by conservatives who support Russian, up to and including slandering Ukrainian soldiers.”

Nonsense. Before I get labeled at a Putin-bot, let’s clear the air: we have no business being there and should not interfere. Let Ukraine fall. What will happen, will happen.

and give back our extra $40 billion which will again , be “lost” or actually given to the Biden family and democrat slush fund in the form of “aid”.


56 posted on 05/18/2022 9:00:54 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: PGR88
You need to go back and start reading about the "Orange Revolution," the roles of CIA-funded NGO's, the push to expand NATO, and especially, the Maidan Coup and the US government take-over of Ukraine Government and policy under Obama (which facilitated Hunter Biden's corruption), the internal war against Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the East.

A great summary of the Russian propaganda talking points.

Of course you omitted the parts about the people of Ukraine electing new leadership, their elected Parliament removing Yanukovych, Russia invading Ukraine in 2014, Russia seizing Crimea from Ukraine illegally, and many other facts.

And just in case you didn't know, Hunter and Joe Biden have been corrupt for many years. Why has it been reported that the wife of the mayor of Moscow give $3.5 million to Hunter Biden?

57 posted on 05/18/2022 9:01:21 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: TheDandyMan

“... as I said, there’s plenty of corruption in Ukraine, as there is in Russia as well. ...”

As much as we have in Washington, D.C.?????

Every time I read of all the corruption in Ukraine, Russia and elsewhere, the old saying, “the pot calling the kettle black,” comes to mind.


58 posted on 05/18/2022 9:04:18 AM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: NorseViking

what are you winning?

last i heard because of the dedication of the tractor corps, ukraine now has more tanks then russia...seriously, how funny is that?


59 posted on 05/18/2022 9:04:33 AM PDT by KOZ. ( )
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To: freeandfreezing

Wrong. Even left-wingers were against the coup, as are conservatives:

Salon, 2/2/22: “...The most critical events that have been airbrushed out of the West’s political narrative are the violation of agreements made by Western leaders at the end of the Cold War not to expand NATO into Eastern Europe, and the U.S.-backed coup in Ukraine in February 2014... in which an armed mob led by the neo-Nazi Right Sector militia stormed the Ukrainian parliament, forcing elected President Viktor Yanukovych and members of his party to flee for their lives. ...”

Coups help lead to where we are now.


60 posted on 05/18/2022 9:04:34 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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