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What if China and Japan dump their US Treasuries?
asiatimes.com ^ | May 5 2022 | William Pesek

Posted on 05/11/2022 6:40:35 PM PDT by elpadre

TOKYO – The Japanese yen’s sharp decline may be producing an unexpected loser: the US Treasury Department.

One of the most intriguing mysteries of the last three months is this: Why is Japan, the biggest foreign holder of US Treasury securities, placing so many “sell” orders? In three months, Japanese institutional managers have dumped a cool $60 billion of US paper.

Granted, that is a drop in the proverbial bucket considering Tokyo holds a $1.3 trillion stack of Washington’s IOUs. But the magnitude of the selling is getting increasingly hard to ignore.

The most plausible explanation is the yen’s 13% drop so far this year. That fall complicates the economics of loading up on US debt at a moment when US inflation is at 40-year highs. That’s despite the negligible 0.22% return investors receive on 10-year Japanese government bonds.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; china; clownworld; cryptocurrency; gold; japan; ntsa; reservecurrency; rubleisat66; williampesek
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1 posted on 05/11/2022 6:40:35 PM PDT by elpadre
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What if????? Something to think about. What would be Washington’s reaction??? How do we get these politicians to quit this runaway spending??? What say ye???


2 posted on 05/11/2022 6:43:29 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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China has been dumping Treasuries foe years.


3 posted on 05/11/2022 6:46:22 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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What if the US voided the CUSIP numbers to those bonds before they could be sold?


4 posted on 05/11/2022 6:46:42 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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If countries like this start selling even a modest percentage of the treasuries they hold it will be huge for the US.


5 posted on 05/11/2022 6:50:51 PM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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It’s always been a run on American tax payers money after the tax season…from all the countries of the world. I read that this years tax hall is the largest ever, like over 4 trillion dollar’s. It’s as though a lot of countries and politicians want a piece of this huge pile of our tax paying dollars. just sayin’


6 posted on 05/11/2022 6:51:29 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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To: elpadre
What if????? Something to think about. What would be Washington’s reaction??? How do we get these politicians to quit this runaway spending??? What say ye???

A whole lot of nothing, the Fed is in the process of winding down its balance sheet which includes 8 trillion dollars in treasures(?)

The Fed lets it happen, the Fed holds off on onloading its treasures, or the fed continues to unload.

7 posted on 05/11/2022 6:51:36 PM PDT by Brellium (This post brought to you by St. Javelin, the worlds leading distributer of T72 parts)
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To: elpadre

Nice fear porn, but in reality the US dollar is the strongest currency on the planet right now, and the cash flow out of Asia into treasury bonds has China very concerned. Foreign investment in China is down 64% YoY, which is huge.

The Fed’s QT has raised the returns on bonds to levels not seen in many years, and investors are buying bonds at record pace. Central banks have their own agendas, and both the RMB and Yen are crashing against the dollar right now.

Note metals have also dropped against the dollar.


8 posted on 05/11/2022 6:52:34 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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Good Post. A reality based post.

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9 posted on 05/11/2022 6:55:11 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: elpadre

If they dump the Treasuries, they would have to put the money somewhere else, likely with a lower yield. Ironically, the folks who they buy from might take that money and turn around and buy U.S. Trasuries!


10 posted on 05/11/2022 6:55:44 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“...we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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To: datura

We’re the least bad of all the major currencies, which is more than a little scary. I came to this realization 3-4 years ago from an article posted here on the subject.


11 posted on 05/11/2022 6:59:52 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GaltMeister

What if China actually made a payment on the $1.6 billion in treasuries owed to American investors that they haven’t paid a penny on in over half a century? (By the way, that’s about how much US debt China owes.)


12 posted on 05/11/2022 7:02:29 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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The #1 US debt holder is the Federal Reserve, though that's liable to change soon if the Fed keeps doing QT (tapering).

The #2 debt holder is the Social Insecurity system.

China owes about 8% of U.S. debt.

13 posted on 05/11/2022 7:04:00 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: datura

I’m looking for the verified stamp and the like button... Nice post.


14 posted on 05/11/2022 7:06:02 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: FreedomPoster

(We’re the least bad of all the major currencies, which is more than a little scary)

That is indeed scary with nearly 200 trillion in U.S. debt and unfunded liabilities alone.

https://usdebtclock.org/index.html?taxpayer=


15 posted on 05/11/2022 7:15:58 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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If they dump their US treasuries nothing will happen.

Nobody will buy them.

Because they will never, ever be paid.

Never.


16 posted on 05/11/2022 7:19:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: FreedomPoster
We’re the least bad of all the major currencies, which is more than a little scary. I came to this realization 3-4 years ago from an article posted here on the subject.

That has been my conclusion as well. Still trying to figure out where the best place to put money would be that keeps pace with inflation. Until recently, the answer was stocks. As of this moment....real estate in select markets. Otherwise, I'm not sure.
17 posted on 05/11/2022 7:32:04 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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If you figure it out, let me know soonest.


18 posted on 05/11/2022 7:37:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: elpadre
What if China and Japan dump their US Treasuries?

Uh...

They won't lose as much money than if they keep them?

19 posted on 05/11/2022 7:39:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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...it will be huge for the US.

Good or bad for us

20 posted on 05/11/2022 7:40:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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