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1 posted on 05/11/2022 6:40:35 PM PDT by elpadre
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What if????? Something to think about. What would be Washington’s reaction??? How do we get these politicians to quit this runaway spending??? What say ye???


2 posted on 05/11/2022 6:43:29 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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China has been dumping Treasuries foe years.


3 posted on 05/11/2022 6:46:22 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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What if the US voided the CUSIP numbers to those bonds before they could be sold?


4 posted on 05/11/2022 6:46:42 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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Nice fear porn, but in reality the US dollar is the strongest currency on the planet right now, and the cash flow out of Asia into treasury bonds has China very concerned. Foreign investment in China is down 64% YoY, which is huge.

The Fed’s QT has raised the returns on bonds to levels not seen in many years, and investors are buying bonds at record pace. Central banks have their own agendas, and both the RMB and Yen are crashing against the dollar right now.

Note metals have also dropped against the dollar.


8 posted on 05/11/2022 6:52:34 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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If they dump the Treasuries, they would have to put the money somewhere else, likely with a lower yield. Ironically, the folks who they buy from might take that money and turn around and buy U.S. Trasuries!


10 posted on 05/11/2022 6:55:44 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“...we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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The #1 US debt holder is the Federal Reserve, though that's liable to change soon if the Fed keeps doing QT (tapering).

The #2 debt holder is the Social Insecurity system.

China owes about 8% of U.S. debt.

13 posted on 05/11/2022 7:04:00 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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What if China and Japan dump their US Treasuries?

Uh...

They won't lose as much money than if they keep them?

19 posted on 05/11/2022 7:39:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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They already do, and further politicization of the USD makes it harder to sell new bonds.
The feds are going to get into pensions and then skim the savings of the “rich”.


22 posted on 05/11/2022 7:57:55 PM PDT by NorseViking
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If I was President, I would close the Fed so they could not print money and tell the bond holders we would not make any more payments. Congress could only spend the money they had and people around the World would stop buying our IOU’s. That means No One Would ever Loan the USA money! Country would need to Live within it means.


25 posted on 05/11/2022 8:41:23 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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They would lose a ton of money. With interest rates going up the value of their bonds goes down. And if you flood the market with more bonds, they’ll go down even more.

It’s something they would do if they thought it’s better to cut their losses now than wait until things get even worse here.


26 posted on 05/11/2022 8:50:47 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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In the short term China and Japan hold enough Treasuries to rock the market on any given day.

The Federal Reserve Bank however, has the ability to step in and buy every one that they might sell, if it seemed important to stabilize that market, and/or interest rates.


27 posted on 05/11/2022 9:51:10 PM PDT by BeauBo
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“One of the most intriguing mysteries of the last three months is this: Why is Japan, the biggest foreign holder of US Treasury securities, placing so many “sell” orders? In three months, Japanese institutional managers have dumped a cool $60 billion of US paper. “

One of the most intriguing mysteries? Is this guy on crack? At the start of an interest rate rising cycle, currently held bonds lose value so that triggers some selling. Who wants to hold a bond paying 2% when a year from now you can buy one paying 3.5% and avoid holding a capital loss? “A cool 60 billion”?! What percentage of that to $1.3 trillion? 1/2 of 1 percent, in the noise level.


31 posted on 05/12/2022 12:47:25 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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Are they actually selling USA debt securities, or just not re-investing when maturing debt is redeemed?

When interest rates are going up, existing bonds actually lose re-sale value, unless they are close to maturity.

My guess - the US Dollar is too expensive for them.

In spite of all the trash talk about the US Dollar, it is currently selling for 104.70 against a basket of currencies.

That is the highest level in twenty years!

36 posted on 05/12/2022 5:20:06 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Dump = sell.

For a seller to sell there must be a buyer so what’s the difference to the US treasury


37 posted on 05/12/2022 5:23:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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For every seller there needs to be a buyer.


41 posted on 05/12/2022 8:34:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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