Posted on 05/07/2022 6:05:02 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
At this point in our conversation, this is what you concede:
It was a popular revolution... by the time parliament voted, Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328 to 0
Revolution of Dignity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
This article is about the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. For other uses, see Revolution of Dignity (disambiguation).
Revolution of Dignity
Goals
Removal of President Viktor Yanukovych
Restoration of the 2004 amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine
Methods
Protesting, rioting, civil disobedience, insurrection
Resulted in Euromaidan / Opposition victory
Full results
Parties to the civil conflict
Euromaidan protestors
Ukraine Government of Ukraine
Supported by:
Russia (alleged)
Lead figures
Arseniy Yatsenyuk
Vitali Klitschko
Oleh Tyahnybok
Petro Poroshenko
Yuriy Lutsenko
Oleksandr Turchynov
Yulia Tymoshenko
Andriy Parubiy
Andriy Sadovyi
Arsen Avakov
Dmytro Yarosh
Ruslana
Viktor Yanukovych
Serhiy Arbuzov
Vitaliy Zakharchenko
Oleksandr Yefremov
Andriy Klyuyev
Hennadiy Kernes
Mikhail Dobkin
Viktor Pshonka
Olena Lukash
Yuriy Boyko
Leonid Kozhara
Dmytro Tabachnyk
Number
Kyiv:
400,000–800,000 protesters[8]
12,000 “self-defense sotnia”[9][10]
Across Ukraine:
50,000 (Lviv)[11]
20,000 (Cherkasy)[12]
10,000+ (Ternopil)[13]
other cities and towns
Law enforcement in Kyiv:
4,000 Berkut
1,000 Internal Troops
3,000–4,000 titushky[14]
Pro-government/anti-EU demonstrations:
20,000–60,000 (Kyiv)
40,000 (Kharkiv)[15]
15,000 (Donetsk)[16]
10,000 (Simferopol)[17]
2,500 pro-Russia (Sevastopol)[18]
Casualties and losses
Deaths: 108 (January–February)[19]
Injured: 1,100+[20][21]
Arrested: 77[22]
Deaths: 13[19]
Injured: 272[21]
Captured: 67[23]
Overall deaths: 121[19]
Overall injuries: 1,811
Ministry of Healthcare totals (16 April 2014 @6:00 LST)[24]
Not to be confused with Maidan Uprising the previous year.
The Revolution of Dignity (Ukrainian: Революція гідності, romanized: Revoliutsiia hidnosti), also known as the Maidan Revolution,[2] took place in Ukraine in February 2014[2][1] at the end of the Euromaidan protests,[1] when deadly clashes between protesters and the security forces in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv culminated in the ousting of elected President Viktor Yanukovych just prior to him being impeached.
In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to President Yanukovych’s sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. In February of that year, the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved of finalizing the agreement with the EU.[25] Russia had put pressure on Ukraine to reject it.[26] These protests continued for months and their scope widened, with calls for the resignation of Yanukovych and the Azarov Government.[27] Protesters opposed what they saw as widespread government corruption and abuse of power, the influence of oligarchs, police brutality, and violation of human rights in Ukraine.[28][29] Repressive anti-protest laws fuelled further anger.[28] A large, barricaded protest camp occupied Independence Square in central Kyiv throughout the ‘Maidan Uprising’.
The first protesters were killed in fierce clashes with police on Hrushevsky Street on 19–22 January. Thousands of protesters advanced towards parliament, led by activists with shields and helmets, and were fired on by police snipers.[19] On 21 February, an agreement between President Yanukovych and the leaders of the parliamentary opposition was signed that called for the formation of an interim unity government, constitutional reforms and early elections.[31] The following day, police withdrew from central Kyiv.... Yanukovych fled the city and then the country.[32] That day, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328 to 0 (72.8% of the parliament’s 450 members).[33][34][35][31]
The interim government, led by Arseniy Yatsenyuk, signed the EU association agreement and disbanded the Berkut. Petro Poroshenko became president after a victory in the 2014 presidential elections (54.7% of the votes cast in the first round). The new government restored the 2004 amendments to the Ukrainian constitution that had been controversially repealed as unconstitutional in 2010,[39] and initiated a large-scale purge of civil servants associated with the overthrown regime.[40][41][42] There was also a widespread decommunization of the country.
“We’ve supplied intelligence to Ukraine, which is just as deadly as the military aid/weaponry that we have given them.”
A bit of payback for what the Russians did to us in Korea and Viet Nam.
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A 'popular revolution' where Obama Administration officials were talking quite blatantly about "sealing the deal" as to who they wanted to be in control of new government.
A 'popular revolution' openly advocated for by the likes of the notorious neocon warmonger John McCain.
I concede that there was a revolution and a coup. What I doubt is that it originated solely according to the desires of the Ukrainian people, given foreign meddling.
All of the wars the U.S. has been involved in post-WWII have been based on lies.
Rino’s favorite war.
When dems, msm, IC, and neocons all push for the same thing, you know it’s bad.
“Liz Cheney, Hillary Clinton, George Soros, etc. are all on the same side as the TV-watching Ukraine virtue signalers.”
Ukraine, Inc., has a massive, well funded, lobbying and propaganda machine in the US. Dwarfs all other countries. Remember, corruption is a way of life there, and therefore here. Bags of cash. Family hires. Paid of journalists. And more “Contacts with Congressmen” each year than the next 3 countries combined. (Published fact)
And they’re in bed with the State Department, and their CIA dirty deed squad. Everyone involved stands to make millions. Ukraine is the State Department’s bank of corruption. And the POTUS is leader of the corrupt cash machine!!!
Money for everyone!!!
Now she would have been a good candidate for abortion but her father DICK Beelzebub had other ideas
Globalists are far more dangerous than Putin.
ItâÂÂs not even close.
Freedom to do what?? Launder money?
“Two wrongs don’t make a right.”
Three do.
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The history of the region is
9th century. The eastern Slavs living in what is now Belarus and western Ukraine, invite Germanic Varangians to rule over them. The ruling family is the rurikid dynasty and the land us called the Rus lands.
12th century, the Mongol khaganate comes, crushes everything.
13th century, the Belarus lands come under control of the pagan Lithuanians who keep Belarusian as the language of government. The red ruthenian ie Ukrainian lands come under the western slavs ie the Poles. The eastern Rus lands are under the Golden Horde ie the khanate of Jochi, son of Chingiz.
13th and 14th centuries, the Dukes of Muscowy are the tax collectors for the Khan
14th century, the Golden horde is weak and the Duke retitled himself as Grand Duke and tries to gain independence. This is crushed by Khan Tokhtamysh.
Tokhtamysh is defeated by Timur e lang who doesn’t care for the northern lands, so Muscowy slowly gains de facto independence.
Meanwhile, the Lithuanians and Poles unite under the Lithuanian Jagiellon dynasty. Ukrainians and Belarusians are the third nation in that Commonwealth. The legacy is of chaotic democracy.
15th century, Constantinople falls and the grand Duke declares himself Tsar and heir to constantinople, ie the third Rome. This is laughable as the Rus were always seen as barbaric by the Romans.
Muscowy conquers and devastates Novgorod, a republic to the north west if them that refused to get under Moscow’s thumb.
16th century, the Rurikid dynasty dies out and Muscowy is briefly joined with Poland and Lithuania.
In 1610 the Poles leave and the Romanov dynasty comes.
In this time Ukraine is a frontier land between Poland, Muscowy and the Crimean Tatars.
In the 165ps it declares itself independent, and asks Muscowy to help it against the Poles and Tatar, calling on eastern Orthodox brotherhood. Moscow takes the chance to reduce them to a vassal state (so much for Eastern Orthodox brotherhood).
Late 1700s, poland is partitioned between muscowy, Prussia and Austria. Moscow ts 50% of the land.
Late 1800s, Muscowy starts forced Russification throughout its lands. Until this point in time the ruling class spoke French or Baltic German
1919, a brief independence for Ukraine. Then the Russians come back.
1990, the Presidents of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine SSRs decide jointly to terminate the USSR.
What “educate” did you mean?
What “educate” did you mean?
Whatever Lurker...crawl back underneath your hole.
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(See, I can type a capital letter too!)
You can. But you shouldn’t.
I do it better than you ever will.
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In a vague, distant way they are correct. Not because they said it. It’s just common sense to NOT want tyrannical states like China and Russia to gobble up ever more of the world. Ukraine, and the other central/eastern European territories, have an outsized influence on global food supplies and prices. And they are important for MANY good reasons. China’s attempt to control large chunks of open ocean and other territories goes beyond what we have seen before.
Both of these two powers have designs on controlling all or part of the “World Island” (Eurasian continent), with all it’s vast numbers of people and resources.
And both of them are incredible threats to freedom.
>9th century. The eastern Slavs living in what is now Belarus and western Ukraine, invite Germanic Varangians to rule over them. The ruling family is the rurikid dynasty and the land us called the Rus lands.
Actually, the people of the Novgorod region in modern Russia were the ones who invited the Varangians.
You’re right, I forgot how old Novgorod Veliky is.
According to the primary Chronicle
The tributaries of the Varangians drove them back beyond the sea and, refusing them further tribute, set out to govern themselves. There was no law among them, but tribe rose against tribe. Discord thus ensued among them, and they began to war one against another. They said to themselves, “Let us seek a prince who may rule over us and judge us according to the Law.” They accordingly went overseas to the Varangian Russes: these particular Varangians were known as Russes, just as some are called Swedes, and others Normans, English, and Gotlanders, for they were thus named. The Chuds, the Slavs, the Krivichians, and the Ves’ then said to the people of Rus’, “Our land is great and rich, but there is no order in it. Come to rule and reign over us.” They thus selected three brothers, with their kinsfolk, who took with them all the Russes and migrated. The oldest, Rurik, located himself in Novgorod; the second, Sineus, at Beloozero; and the third, Truvor, in Izborsk. On account of these Varangians, the district of Novgorod became known as the land of Rus’. The present inhabitants of Novgorod are descended from the Varangian race, but aforetime they were Slavs [преже бо бѣша Словѣни].
Say what you will, but I don’t find anything particularly attractive at all in aligning with Russia, Red China, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, Belarus, Congo, and all the other scumbag totalitarian backwaters that support Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine. But some others’ mileage may vary
Warmongering globalists, like Cheney, love fighting foreign wars to the very last one of other people’s sons.
The Republican Party should have listened to Pat Buchanan in the 1990’s instead of waiting for the botchfest of W’s wars.
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