Liz Cheney, Jake Auchincloss: Ukraine is fighting for America’s freedom, too

The hill ^ | 05/07/2022 | Caroline Vakil

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yeh sure. 🙄

[madison10]

Nonsense.

[McGruff]

#UkraineFirst

[Mariner]

Stupid-assed neocons believe this and side with Liz Cheney.

[Cathi]

“Actually, in trying to disrupt globalism and a “rules based international order”, it is Russia that’s fighting for our freedom.”

That is so true even though obviously helping us was not one of their goals...:-)

But, it looks like we are going to be sparred from the WEF’s globalism as the new power block/spheres of influence are rapidly taking hold reducing our previous free world hegemony to little more than over failing NATO states; which ironically are being decimated in this desperate attempt to maintain power by taking down Russia.

Her opinion piece looks like desperation to me.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Here’s the reason why Russia is taking heavy losses. There is no way Ukraine can defeat Russia in a head-to-head match-up.
US aid and intelligence are going to get a lot of Americans killed when the Bear retaliates.

[laconic]

Well, her father never saw a war he didn’t like from afar, but he never saw war or military service. Five school and marriage deferments during VN, “wasn’t in my plans”. I had two brothers in VN, and can assure you it wasn’t in their plans either but you have a duty of service to this country and they knew it. Otherwise, you end up as a cowardly old bloviator shrieking for war like this old warmonger and his daughter and starting an unjustifiable war that caused hundreds of thousands their lives, including thousands of our servicemen and women.

[Jim Noble]

over failing NATO states

Don't worry, the Belgian Army is ready to go.

Pour les Belges y en a plus.
Pour les Belges y en a plus.
Ce sont des tireurs au cul.
Pour les Belges y en a plus.
Pour les Belges y en a plus.
Ce sont des tireurs au cul.

[kiryandil]

Then they moved on to guzzling the Blue and Yellow drank, sliding into bed with Liz Cheney, Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.

[BlackbirdSST]

Then they moved on to guzzling the Blue and Yellow drank, sliding into bed with Liz Cheney, Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.

GAK!!!

[simpson96]

What a surprise, a Cheney is cheering on the war machine.

[Carriage Hill]

“At that point the Republicant pary should disavow her.”

Not going to happen.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

Extremely Extreme Extremist: [Here’s the reason why Russia is taking heavy losses. There is no way Ukraine can defeat Russia in a head-to-head match-up.
US aid and intelligence are going to get a lot of Americans killed when the Bear retaliates.]

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Late model Russian weaponry got 100K GI’s killed in Korea and Vietnam. It would take another 70K dead Russians to merely balance the scales. Note that the Russians supplied their newest jet fighters and tanks to North Korea and North Vietnam. We have supplied none to Ukraine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-15#Soviet_MiG-15s_in_the_Korean_War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-15#Chinese_and_Korean_MiG-15s_during_the_Korean_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-17#Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-19#Vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-21#Vietnam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34#Korean_War_(1950%E2%80%931953)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-54/T-55#Vietnam_War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT-76#Vietnam_War

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

We’ve supplied intelligence to Ukraine, which is just as deadly as the military aid/weaponry that we have given them.

[x]

It doesn’t seem to have been part of FDR’s bill, but when we gave Britain Lend-Lease aid, we got the use of foreign bases in Empire/Commonwealth lands. Who gets what from Ukraine?

[CarolinaReaganFan]

Let Lez Cheney take her family and go there to fight.
We need to stay out of other countries civil wars.
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The pace is picking up big time in the east!
Yesterday - Russian forces took Shandryholove, Starvky & Nyzhnie..Today Russian forces captured Dibrova (South of Lyman) and Vojevodivka (North of Severodonetsk)..
Very interesting that the Uke governor of Luhansk reported that the Rus have opened a new front attacking near Severo at Bilohrivka.. about 15K uke troops in that area and are about to have supply roads cut off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZazho0gKho

[Kevmo]

and your side is the same side as obambam, who did absolutely nothing when Ukraine was invaded the first time because, like you, he upheld anti-values of betrayal and appeasement and refusing to do the right thing

[Kevmo]

Far too many of you obambam fans have an inner coward. Obammy did absolutely nothing but betray Ukraine when they were invaded the first time, even though there was a border & sovereignty agreement in place. You guys think such a thing is wise, you are appeasing Putin the same way Hitler was appeased with Sudetenland 1938, you don’t care that the Ukes HONORED the agreement and gave up their nukes because they don’t have them now. You uphold betrayal as if it were a virtue. You make me sick.

[Kevmo]

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Ukraine-Nuclear-Weapons

Timeline

July 16, 1990: Ukraine’s Declaration of Sovereignty
July 31, 1991: The United States and the Soviet Union sign START
Dec. 26, 1991: The Soviet Union officially dissolves, delaying entry into force of START
Dec. 30, 1991: Minsk Agreement on Strategic Forces
The Commonwealth of Independent States agrees that strategic forces would be under the joint command of the former Soviet Union states
May 23, 1992: Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and the United States sign the Lisbon Protocol
The protocol calls for the return of nuclear weapons in three formerly Soviet states to Russia and for all states to be added to the START treaty and join the NPT
Jan. 14, 1994: Ukraine, Russia, and the United States sign the Trilateral Statement
Ukraine commits to full disarmament, including strategic offensive weapons, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia
Sept. 4, 1993: Massandra Accords
Failed summit between Russian and Ukrainian governments
Dec. 5, 1994: Russia, Ukraine, United States, and the United Kingdom sign the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances
Includes security assurances against the threat or use of force against Ukraine’s territory or political independence
Dec. 5, 1994: Ukraine submits its instrument of accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state
The five START parties exchange instruments of ratification for START, which enters into force
June 1, 1996: Ukraine transfers its last nuclear warhead to Russia
October 30, 2001: Ukraine eliminates its last strategic nuclear weapon delivery vehicle
Dec. 4, 2009: Joint Statement by Russia and the United States
The two countries confirm the security guarantees made in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum
March 18, 2014: Russia annexes Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula and provides supports an ongoing insurrection by separatist forces in the eastern Luhansk and Donetsk provinces of Ukraine.
Late 2021 to early 2022: Russia engages in “military exercises” with a force estimated to exceed 150,000 military personnel involving land-, sea-, and air-based weaponry on the northern, eastern, and southern borders of Ukraine raising fears of an invasion by Russia.
February 24, 2022: Russia began a large-scale military attack and invasion of Ukraine, with planes and missile launcher attacks on Ukrainian cities, airports, and military infrastructure across much of the country.

[Kevmo]

you guys aint normals, you’re trolls

obambam fans

upholding betrayal as a virtue

not caring about getting nuclear nonproliferation right