Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was Right: Roe v. Wade was always destined for the Scrap Heap

Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2022 | Peter Pischke

[frogjerk]

Protesting in Catholic Churches on Mother’s Day and threatening SCOTUS and doxxing them is a great way to show how radical these demon vermin truly are.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Roe came about from the lack of options for an unwanted child.

BS sir.

Complete and total BS.

And if you are honest with yourself you know it.

Adoption was a clear and available option for any unwanted child.

And I just love how he points out how now you can just take a pill, that will cause any number of side effects, to kill your baby now and thinks that is an "option".

Good grief.

[Pete Dovgan]

I believe, that the ‘battle against abortion’ is a lost battle. There will be limits, put in place in every state. Those limits, in my opinion, will end up being very close to one another as time goes on. I believe, after the initial ‘gasp’ on both the right and the left, we will likely come to some type of general understanding.

The most important thing, is that this finally returns the power to the people, and will force legislative branches of government to actually legislate law. The SCOTUS usurpation of people and legislative authority via a preposterous claim of ‘right to privacy’ was ludicrous.

Lets all grow up, discuss things in a reasonable fashion, and try to make difficult compromises and decisions, without vilifying each other for our thoughts and beliefs. Mostly, lets try to keep the Federal Government out and let the people decide.

[PGR88]

Progressives see “emanations and penumbras” everywhere.

A man can have the aura of a woman. homosexuals can have a marriage. The 4th amendment covers the right to kill a baby.

Its cheap cover for their fascist social-engineering.

[Spok]

Roe was a departure from the rule of law. Activist judges were looking at short term results and ignored the damage they did to the doctrine of precedent. There are many reasons it should be reversed that have nothing to do with the immorality of abortion, not the least of which are stare decisis and the tenth amendment. The ethics of judicial restraint and following the law aren’t even taught in law school nor discussed in the legal community; it’s all just about serving one groups twisted notion of morality.

[livius]

And of course, what about their other mantra, “a woman’s health”?

For women, there is nothing healthy about abortion, whether it is surgical or chemical. Nothing physically healthy and nothing psychologically or emotionally healthy.

This has been shown in many (suppressed) studies, and is just a matter of common sense, on top of that. But these “concerned” folk never talk about that.

[DaBroasta]

Ginsburg warned emphatically in a 1992 lecture that Roe “doctrinal limbs too swiftly shaped, (as) experience teaches, may prove unstable.”

I bet she's down in hell right now telling Ted Kennedy and Bobby Byrd--'see I told ya so!'

[GenXFreedomFighter]

bump

[Jamestown1630]

“Stare De Crisis”?

[alancarp]

None of this gets at the real heart of the matter: there’s still nothing that legally establishes the point at which a baby in utero gains full rights as a human being. We still have a mish-mash of inconsistent rules and laws from state to state that come to light only when a pregnant mother is killed or otherwise injured in a manner that kills her baby (i.e., the number of murder charges that are filed in response).

Still, I expect that the next legality to be litigated will be about the ‘rights’ of people to leave their home state to gain an abortion in a different state (and/or the ‘rights’ of someone assisting someone to do the same).

[Hyman Roth]

For women, there is nothing healthy about abortion, whether it is surgical or chemical. Nothing physically healthy and nothing psychologically or emotionally healthy.

How true. I have a good friend who was raped in college. She had an abortion. Now at 52 she still cries about it and she wishes she had never done it. She calls me to come over and stay at her house at night sometimes because she is so depressed and she wants someone there to keep her from doing the unthinkable.

[Candor7]

The Dem Marxists will lie like hell to get a radicalizing issue for Nov. 3rd.But they may be biting off more than “Gums” Biden can chew. That means that his handlers will have to chew for him....so the Marxist destabilization will accelerate.

This time federal buildings will be assaulted by hoards of screaming , barren women wearing pink vagina hats, rifles, torches, handguns and molotov cocktails? And the FBI will do nothing while these “protests” are labelled “peaceful” by the MSM and the likes of Nancy Pelosi?

Ruth Ginsberg was a Marxist Justice who hid herself well. She will haunt us for years and even though Ginsberg knew that Roe v Wade was bad law, and said so, she still provides emotional incitement to women who “looked like her.” And now they are about to turn violent like ANTIFA and BLM.

Who would want anything to do with these modern Hecates? We should can them and sent them to our enemies as weapons of mass destruction.They can depopulate a nation in a generation.

Imagine a crowd of them turning up after dark with Molotov cocktails and peacfully protesting at your home?

[Ancesthntr]

“Whatever your position on abortion is, Roe v. Wade is objectively bad law built upon fetid ground.”

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This is exactly what my Constitutional Law prof told us (in 1983). He was conservative and had hoped for an appointment to the federal bench (though he never got one), but made it clear why - in objective terms - that Roe was built on a house of cards. He said that repeated testing of narrow points would build toward a repeal at some point. He did emphasize, for my liberal classmates, that as an attorney and as a judge you have to completely separate your legal analysis of a case or of the Constitutionality of a law from your own personal beliefs.

He also emphasized that the simplest way for those in favor of abortion to make it legal nationwide was without Roe, by having a law passed by Congress and signed by the President. Needless to say, the libs didn’t like this one bit - even then, they were hypocritical bastards, loving “democracy” when it produced the results that they liked, hating it when it failed to do so.

I always come back to what King Solomon said some 3,000 years ago: “There’s nothing new under the Sun.” Human nature does not change, and the Leftists (of whatever label, flying whatever flag, etc.) are simply those who wish to enslave as many other people as possible, by any means possible. That accounts for their unashamed and in-your-face hypocrisy, both in my classroom in 1983 and now.

[Erik Latranyi]

Democrats went from abortion should be “safe, rare and legal” to “the baby would be born and made comfortable....then the doctor and mother would have a discussion...”

[Jamestown1630]

I knew a lawyer many years ago who had worked for the ACLU. He resigned and went into private practice because he was so disgusted with their involvement in Roe. He could go on a long tirade as to why it was horrible ‘law’ - and that there was practically no LAW argued in it.

[Ancesthntr]

“For women, there is nothing healthy about abortion, whether it is surgical or chemical. Nothing physically healthy and nothing psychologically or emotionally healthy.”

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My wife has a cousin who was adopted at birth, about 35 years ago. She has always wanted to know who her parents were, what her background was, etc. - which is perfectly normal. Recently, she and her husband were able (with a little help from me) to locate her birth parents. She contacted them (and they were in college when she was born, but didn’t marry until many years later, and she has a full brother who was born after their marriage), and is going to have a long discussion with them this weekend.

I have noted to her and her husband (both of whom are against abortion, btw) that this reinforces the view that I had expressed to them months ago that her birth parents were decent people and would likely want to speak with her - after all, the mother could have had an abortion. But she (or they together) decided not to do that, to let their child live even if they were not ready to take care of her, and that this spoke to a certain baseline decency and morality. I also pointed out the obvious to them, with an eye toward other members of the family who are quite liberal, that without that decision, she and her children (and their descendants, forever) would never have lived. I look forward to future family meetings when the topic comes up - I am going to utterly slam those in favor of abortion with a very concrete example that is right in their midst.

[Ancesthntr]

That lawyer found out what many have (and what many on the Left purposely ignore), which is that the ACLU is a Marxist, America-hating, organization masquerading as a civil rights group. They pretend to back ALL civil rights, but in reality only back those that advance the Leftist agenda. One need only look at their stance on the 2nd Amendment to see that - here’s an explicitly reserved right which they deny exists, vs. the non-existent “right” to an abortion that appears nowhere at all in the Constitution or in our prior law.

You can tell that a person is intellectually and morally honest when they can see organizations like the ACLU (and NOW, for that matter) for the utterly hypocritical and manipulative organizations that they are.

[TBP]

The ?Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments effectively prohibit abortion.