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Ukraine is still losing so what is the plan
Moon of Alabama ^ | 20 Apr 22 | Moon of Alabama

Posted on 04/26/2022 7:09:08 PM PDT by delta7

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To: tlozo

No, half of the US howitzers are already in Ukraine.
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Sources? Careful, there is no proof, the give away being the massive ammo supply equipment and support required for 155mm , heavy movers, 5 ton vehicles, maintenance trucks,….that said, the Ukies have only ever used Russian artillery.
How many have been trained on on US equipment? ..even our US Redleg AIT training is 3-4 months long.
That said, how many English speaking Ukie cannon cockers are there? There is a huge language curve as Soviet equipment is in Cyrillic….big, big problems encountered with arty range tables, fuze setting, etc…..your “ theory” highly unlikely.

I will “ bite” on your theory when we see US arty( captured) being paraded in Red Square.


101 posted on 04/28/2022 3:38:26 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
Sources? Careful, there is no proof

"More than half of the 90 US howitzers bound for Ukraine now delivered"

Ukrainian troops now have more than half of the 90 howitzers that the U.S. pledged them to help beat back a Russian attack in the country’s eastern region, chief Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Wednesday.

https://www.stripes.com/incoming/2022-04-27/ukraine-russia-war-howitzers-training-nato-5821871.html

Marine Corps M777 towed 155 mm howitzers are staged on the flight line prior to being loaded onto an Air Force C-17 Globemaster III aircraft at March Air Reserve Base, Calif., on April 22, 2022.


102 posted on 04/28/2022 4:10:06 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: delta7
That said, how many English speaking Ukie cannon cockers are there?

While they are a different caliber than Ukraine’s Soviet-era 152mm Msta-B howitzers, they share the same “basic outlines,” a senior U.S. defense official said last week.

Still, Ukrainian troops require some training to use the weapons, which the U.S. is providing at an undisclosed location outside Ukraine, Kirby said. Ukrainian troops who complete the training are expected to train to other troops when they return to the fight.

“We finished up earlier this week the first tranche of more than 50 trainers that are going to go in and train their teammates,” Kirby said. “We're working on a second tranche of … more than 50 that [are] going to go through training in the same location outside Ukraine.”

The training has gone well so far, according to Ukraine Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov, who said in a translated statement Wednesday that Ukrainian gunners working with a 155mm howitzer “hit the target with the first shot.”

https://www.stripes.com/incoming/2022-04-27/ukraine-russia-war-howitzers-training-nato-5821871.html

103 posted on 04/28/2022 4:12:56 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo

A shame, another Biden Afghanistan blunder, leaves us short. I expect to see some of these towed 155mm being paraded in Red Square or like Kadyrov thanking the senile old man for the gifts. Many of our Javelins were captured by Kadyrov and Russian paratroopers near Mariupol.


104 posted on 04/28/2022 4:23:30 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

https://www.rt.com/news/463026-libya-american-javelin-missiles/

Hope they aren’t coming “ home”, like Libya.


105 posted on 04/28/2022 4:35:44 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It seems to me, that you have not thought things out. XiJinBiden, or rather his handlers are not absolutely stupid. They DO remember old videos of Vietnam and the protests. (They are too young to ACTUALLY remember it.) They are NOT going to get into a war ASAP. Their war, if it happens, will happen after the jury rigged mid-terms where Demonrats retain both houses, or at least govern with the support of several RINOS. Besides, Bill-zebub Gates’ murder shots have not yet fully taken effect. They may not because the human body IS resilient.

They will do everything short of war, trying to take Russia into the WEF sphere, sacrificing as many Ukrainians as necessary, to do it. IF the Russians DO launch a nuclear strike in return, that just means that the population and POWER TO RESIST the WEF, is reduced in the West AND Russia. They, the WEF, will then exit their nuclear bunkers, to offer ‘peace’ and ‘food’, in return for surrendering your freedom and what little assets you have. “You will own nothing and be happy!” (or else!)

It is all about a power grab by the elites, seeking to do it ‘peacefully’ if possible, but not neccessarily.


106 posted on 05/02/2022 12:23:18 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: delta7

Russia has lost the war, they lost it when they couldn’t take Kyiv.

This is no scenario that Russia wins this war, only how they are going to lose.


107 posted on 05/02/2022 12:25:18 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: BenLurkin

You are far more optimistic as to the fat lady’s promptness than I am. I fear this thing will drag on for years. Hope I’m wrong though.


108 posted on 05/05/2022 11:34:06 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: PGR88
The Ukraine plan is to, by any means possible, drag Western Europe, NATO and Uncle Sugar into the fray.

We're already in the fray, we need to get out.

109 posted on 05/05/2022 11:37:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: delta7

Can it be only six weeks ago that some here were ready for Putin to throw in the towel and take his loss?

To me, it looks like he got his trillion dollar armed robbery pulled off and even thinned out his top heavy military in the process. Never under estimate the brutality of a KGB mastermind.


110 posted on 06/13/2022 7:36:20 PM PDT by anton
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Never under estimate the brutality of a KGB mastermind.
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Nor the stupidity of a senile old man who tricked the entire western world into supporting his war and suicide sanctions.


111 posted on 06/13/2022 8:02:59 PM PDT by delta7
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