Posted on 04/16/2022 7:25:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Russia has demanded Ukrainian forces still fighting to defend the besieged city of Mariupol lay down their weapons. The apparent ultimatum comes as Russia continues its relentless and devastating attack on the southeastern city.
Russian state media Ria reported that "without exception" all "Ukrainian armed units and foreign mercenaries" must exit from 6:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Moscow time (same as local time) "without any weapons and ammunition," citing the Russian Defense Ministry.
An estimated 100,000 people remain in Mariupol and its immediate surroundings, which are reported to be largely under Russian control, with Ukrainian troops confined to pockets of resistance.
Some context: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zekensky late Saturday called the situation in the besieged city of Mariupol "inhuman," saying the situation remained "as severe as possible."
"Russia is deliberately trying to destroy everyone who is there in Mariupol," he said in his latest video address.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
LOL. Ukraine is an industrialized nation in possession of 50% of the advanced SAMs in Europe. It lost ten times as many tanks as UK possesses. And based on the leaked comments of the UK’s DefSec Russia expended more cruise missiles over two months than the UK has anti-tank missiles. Tell me what NATO country short of the US is able to sustain such attrition against the Russian forces without collapsing.
Some steel factory.
I care about my fellow man and I find this entire war an unnecessary tragedy. A war that was avoidable and where there is no moral high ground for us.
However, I care more about the US because frankly, I’m a nationalist and this is my home, this nations armed services are where my children serve, where my own future rests.
That said, my real concern is what we set in motion with this war, not in Ukraine, but elsewhere, and not even this second, but what will follow in the next few years to come.
We pushed others into sanctions they did not agree with. We flat out threatened them. Either you follow our lead, or else. Pakistan, Egypt, India... None of them are happy with us. But that gets no media coverage. We basically ousted the President of Pakistan because he wasn’t playing ball. You now have an anti-American fire in Pakistan and a military and Intel service that backed us in the past that in a serious pinch, anti-American grumbling in India, pissed off Egyptians...
Our economic warfare and ability to leverage the dollar in a conflict has been noticed around the world and the forces to dethrone the dollar are very real today. Everyone sees what we did and this will also fuel the parallel development of a world bank through BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa).
This conflict will likely push Russia and China closer.
Wait a few years. We are very proud of our Javelins and stingers today. But this favor will be returned. I can even tell you what systems we can expect to see:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K333_Verba
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-30
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-300P_Bastion-P
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet
We have enemies in Iran, Iraq (where we still have a presence), Afghanistan (we’re still there - just smaller numbers), North Korea, in Africa... that would love to get their hands on these toys.
There will be consequences that extend far beyond the borders of Ukraine or this wars time.
Screw you Russian commander!
There’s about 20% or so that are exposed as pure russian bots. I can’t tell if they really believe what they’re saying. Some seem to, many seem to.
This forum has never allowed differences of opinions. In 2012 half the forum way against romney, then for, and then he won the primary and all those against were purged.
Look up the FR history. It’s as biased as possible.
I simply don’t believe a thing the media tells me anymore so I research things for myself, which I did this time. And lo and behold, I found there’s another side to the Ukrainian situation. Who knew?
I want this war to end ASAP. I don’t cheer the deaths of Russian or Ukrainian civilians, or even soldiers for that matter. I don’t think that makes me a Putin lover. It makes me a human being.
“Tell me what NATO country short of the US is able to sustain such attrition against the Russian forces without collapsing.”
Sweden, the arsenal of the EU in U-rope?
Same here. But Russian soldiers crossed the line when they killed the innocent civilians and raped women. Yeah. Gonna call them orcs now.
Russian supremacists can be quite vicious. They consider themselves the Slavic Master Race so you get these demeaning slurs. There are other slurs, too. They consider Ukrainians to be an untermensch and don’t mind telling you that in vulgar terms.
His name was Sergeytsev. I read his piece the day it was posted and it is chilling.
I have a lot of Lithuanian background that had to flee from the Russians during their Bolshevik years. Now I’m seeing this support for putin-russia to take over and kill more. If I were ethnic Ukrainian due to the ukraine holodomor I’d be even more upset at these russian bots.
They’re basically supporting the worsts crap possible. I’m not for banning and censoring them, but they also need to take it when they are pointing out for being pure evil.
I think you’re very right, and I honestly can’t see why more people don’t understand these points.
Ukrainian soldiers have done the same thing to Ukrainian women in the Donbass for the last 8 years. Where was your outrage then?
Yes he does. And so do many of his gang cohort.
What’s evil about standing up for the Ukrainian citizens living in the Donbass? Just because they’re ethnic Russians the world is supposed to hate them and their lives don’t count?
RT @RT_com
Russia state-affiliated media
Humanitarian aid is making its way through Mariupol with civilians starting to leave their basements as Russian troops have taken control of most of the city.
12:00 AM · Apr 17, 2022
You’ve been here for 5 months. Please don’t lecture the rest of us about freeper history. 🤣
I’m not sure Russia needed to invade Ukraine in modern times to stand up for them. In fact, it’s just BS.
Same as all the Russian claims to do this invasion.
I’ve been watching FR since it was created.
I haven’t found it ‘biased’, except that it definitely has a certain political stance. Sometimes, it has made mistakes as to what will best serve that position.
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