The Moskva, sunk off Ukraine, served in wars hot and cold

AP ^ | 4/13/2022 | JON GAMBRELL

[Kevmo]

Pentagon confirms Ukraine DID hit Putin’s flagship Moskva with two Neptune missiles after Moscow claimed explosion was caused by a fire on board as bodies of almost 1,000 civilians are found near Kyiv
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[little jeremiah]

Well, the Pentagon is certainly the authority to believe.

/not

[Kevmo]

then why did you post 2 pentagon sources?

[little jeremiah]

Sometimes truth is told, sometimes not. So the first guy said one thing, and the other source you posted said something different.

I’ve seen photos of US military training Nazi battalion guys. And much evidence, irrefutable, that the CIA has been funding and training the Nazi battalions since 2016.
That is enough to make me suspicious about anything our gov says about Ukraine. And there’s a lot more than that going on.

[Kevmo]

That is enough to make me suspicious about anything our gov says about Ukraine.
***Then why did you post 2 guvmint sources?

[logi_cal869]

"... all sides admit...

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahaha

You'll never appreciate how much I needed that.

[logi_cal869]

Ah, I see.

Fire is evidence of a Ukrainian missile attack.

Got it.

/s

[logi_cal869]

You emotional cripples just don't get the gravity of what you're pushing, do you?

ZERO evidence, coupled with questionable abilities of the Ukrainians.

I relent. You're ALL right and I am wrong.

The evidence supporting the Ukrainian sinking of the Moskva with Neptun missals [sic] is prolific and, frankly, OVERWHELMING:

Video Shows Russia's Moskva Cruiser Hit by Ukraine's Neptune Missiles - Newsweek

U.S. to train Ukrainian troops, confirms attack sank Russian warship - Washington Post

Cruiseship Moskva is on fire! “Burning right now” — Presidential Adviser Oleksiy Arestovych has confirmed the attack on the Russian cruiser “Moskva” by Ukrainian Neptune missiles.

Russian battleship Moskva sunk after getting direct hit by Ukrainian anti-ship missile || ARMA 3

Moskva Cruiser Sinks in Black Sea Hours After Russia Denies Missile Strike

BREAKING: The Russian cruiser 'Moskva' has just been hit by two Ukrainian Neptune missiles.

Ukrainian military hits Russian cruiser by Neptune missiles

TB2 drone shows the moment the Russian battleship Moskva being hit by Neptune missiles || ARMA 3.

Drone Video footage Of Moskva Cruiser Hit With Neptune Missile

Moskva Russian ship gets destroyed | Ukraine war video footage 2022 | Ukraine heavy combat

There is a video on Twitter purporting to show the actual strike of the missiles on the ship. a Twitter account belonging to Oleksiy Arestovych an advisor to President Zelensky is shown below

Truth be told, this is all propagandist PRON.

(you can clean your own monitors)

US DOD said the Moskva was about 60 miles off Odessa; OSINT (propagandists' favorite acronym) satellite imagery placed it 93 miles off Odessa; that's a major discrepancy.

According to Turkish 'sources' (many of whom are abject propagandists), the Moskva was lying on its side 74 minutes after the alleged attack, and sank less than 3 hours after it was allegedly hit by 2 missiles.

In contrast, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby said the Moskva was "afloat" and under her own power toward Sevastopol.

Hmmm...

I could expend HOURS documenting the contradictions, including data which shows a US Global Hawk in the area. In spite of both of your hysterical claims and straw man performances, I do harbor a minority opinion that a Ukranian missile attack was possible, but in terms of sheer information available, it is 99.9% propaganda to 0.1% facts with ZERO physical evidence of a missile attack.

Fact-checking footage claiming to show recent attack on Russian warship Moskva

And I'm pretty sure that Ukraine has no "missals" at all.

"Undisputed facts"; Indeed.

/s

[Cronos]

you guys need to get your Kremlin stories straight.

First it was that there was a fire and it sank.

Now that oh the Americans fired.

Nope - you really want a war with the USA but you’re getting your butts kicked by Ukraine!

[Krosan]

The “kettle logic” as written by Sigmund Freud.

A man was accused by his neighbor of having returned a borrowed kettle in a damaged condition and the three arguments he offers:

* That he had returned the kettle undamaged

* That it was already damaged when he borrowed it

* That he had never borrowed it in the first place

Though the three arguments are inconsistent, Freud notes that it is so much the better, as if even one is believed to be true then the man must be acquitted.

[logi_cal869]

Sure, Straw man.

[Cronos]

logi I relent. You're ALL right and I am wrong.

dude - if everyone see's things as "Putin's invasion", "Putin's Moskva sank" and there are multiple video evidences, and you still disagree with everyone, you should examine yourself, shouldn't you?

[logi_cal869]

Hey

STRAW MAN:

Check your mirror and make sure that's a genuine sheep following you.

You might not like who it's working for, CINO.

[logi_cal869]

Then again, you might be one of them.

[Cronos]

Dude, do you even know what a straw man argument is?

Your statement “so everybody is right and I’m wrong” says something about you.

My response is not a straw man argument by any definition of the term.

[logi_cal869]

Wow. /s

That says all that anyone else needs to know about you.

ROFLMAO

[Cronos]

really ganeemead - you think the sinking of the Moskva was “fake news”?

[Vermont Lt]

That is hilarious.