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Russia Says Major Ship in Black Sea Fleet Badly Damaged in Blast - Interfax
US News ^ | April 13, 2022

Posted on 04/13/2022 4:43:14 PM PDT by Brellium

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To: LeoWindhorse

LeoWindHorse, you make and interesting suggestion. I’m not
going to back it.

If the Ukrainians use nukes, they put a great big bulls-eye
on themselves, for people to use them on them.

This isn’t the 1950s and the beginning of the nuclear age.

A number of nations have them. One of them is blustering
right now. Given cover and a tiny excuse, I think he
could likely use them.

I don’t wish harm on the citizens of Russia. I don’t want
more harm to befall the Ukrainians either.

Thanks for thinking outside the box. Can’t agree though.


101 posted on 04/13/2022 8:12:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: wgmalabama
You have no idea why that you support the evil Deep State corruption.

I think that one could oppose Mussolini's invasions of Ethiopia and Albania without supporting the regimes of Emperor Haile Selassie and/or King Zog.

102 posted on 04/13/2022 8:12:46 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: ought-six

Well said. I despise bullies. And the Russians have been bullying Eastern Europe for a couple of hundred years. I’m quite happy to see them get their asses handed to them and I don’t much care who is doing it.

L


103 posted on 04/13/2022 8:18:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Brellium

Posted by two different posters on the open thread in Instapundit tonight, William “Bill” McGill and jimb82:

The legend lives on from the Dombas on down
Of the big lake they called Chernoye More
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of April turn gloomy

The ship was the pride of the Russian side
Coming back from shelling Snake Island
As the big cruisers go, it was bigger than most
With a crew and a captain well-pickled


104 posted on 04/13/2022 8:20:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: larrytown

OK, you win the thread.


105 posted on 04/13/2022 8:20:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: DoughtyOne

106 posted on 04/13/2022 8:22:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: wgmalabama

I don’t hate Russia. I’m here in Poland just 50 miles from the border with Ukraine. I’ve been helping with tye refugees who pass. Most of THEM don’t hate Russians.

But Poles and Ukrainians both hate Putin.

We can all see that Putin is killing his own boys, while killing Ukrainians.


107 posted on 04/13/2022 8:28:03 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: DoughtyOne

I spent enough time hiding under my desk, on SAC bases in the ‘50s & the ‘60s. I don’t want to cower to those pukes anymore.
We need an international ‘black force’ , of true ‘good guys’ , than can play rough with the hard guys. Plausible deniability , not associable to any particular state or organization.
We need a President , like Trump, who was not afraid to say
“ My button is larger than your button , and mine works” ...
We have a pussy POTUS that the RussFed and the PRC think they can run roughshod over the world. It’s time to show them otherwise . When is it ‘ our fight’ ? When they are doing ‘ Red Dawn’ in Alaska ? Or first strikes on the east & west coasts? Skip the Congressional brakes ; go for leadership , individually . One of our top priorities should be to develop a space based weapons platform that is individual man targetable. Call it G.O.D, ( global opponent destroyer) “ Oh yea? “ Zaaaap.....bye bye


108 posted on 04/13/2022 8:44:05 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: wgmalabama

Seek psychiatric help.
This is not said as an insult, but really out of a sense of concern for your mental health and perhaps the safety of people around you.
You need a professional to help you process and deal
with your anger and vitriol expressed at perfect strangers.
Don’t cross over a red line!

Take care,


109 posted on 04/13/2022 9:29:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Any FR supporting Russia, China, N. Korea, Belarus, Cuba, Syria, Iran, Venezuela's no patriot AT ALL)
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To: lasereye

Put in more tin foil and suffer from DTs. Live in a trailer.

You’ll then understand the Putanistas.


110 posted on 04/14/2022 4:51:15 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Nukes. Especially small nukes have a very short life and the core has to be renewed. Certain electronics go bad when exposed passively to radiation.

So they are constantly rebuilt and maintained.

I doubt they kept any and doubly doubt any work now.


111 posted on 04/14/2022 4:54:30 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Brellium

A spat between a couple of gay sailors that got out of hand?

No wait, that only happens in the US Navy.


112 posted on 04/14/2022 5:03:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Bob Dylan: "Propaganda, all is phony")
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To: Jewbacca

Yup. I figured you would try and get the Jews into the conversation and let the whole point go right over your head.

So what?


113 posted on 04/14/2022 7:05:17 AM PDT by crz
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To: ought-six

The real question is — why are people cheerleading for Putin?

Yes, the Deep State exists and its tentacles of corruption extend to far more places than we would be comfortable knowing.

That doesn’t change the fact that Ukraine was invaded.

And please, no one should waste time by pretending that Putin is somehow attempting to uncover the Biden-linked corruption and taint in Ukraine.

Col. Putin wants the oil. Col. Putin wants the other key minerals. He just wants to vampire-suck Ukraine dry of all of its key resources.

Col. Putin is simply a totalitarian dictator. Also, for the pearl-clutching Putin bootlickers, I did not say Zelensky is a saint.

But the invasion was launched by Col. Putin. Not the deep state. Not the Biden crime family. Col. Putin initiated the invasion and attempt to rape and pillage Ukraine of its key mineral resources.


114 posted on 04/14/2022 8:44:14 AM PDT by Old West Conservative
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To: Old West Conservative

Of course it was all about the resources. But Putin couldn’t be honest about that, so he trotted out some of the usual bullsh!t excuses that tyrants have used since time immemorial.


115 posted on 04/14/2022 8:50:25 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Old West Conservative

Yep, these tritor liberaltarians are rooting for one of our primary enemies and some say so, right here on FR.


116 posted on 04/14/2022 8:55:31 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: crz

You guys lost a big boat, huh?

Embarrassing.


117 posted on 04/14/2022 9:12:01 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Who is “You guys”


118 posted on 04/14/2022 10:31:39 AM PDT by crz
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To: Jewbacca

Good info . Thanks
So much for my hair brained ideas.
Just wishful thinking anyway


119 posted on 04/14/2022 11:55:24 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Renfrew

It was exploding ammo.

They just didn’t say WHO’S.


120 posted on 04/14/2022 3:28:16 PM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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