Posted on 04/11/2022 5:35:32 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
I was in the same camp; prior to Invasion Putin was in a strong position. He was raking in oil & gas profits and NATO was quaking.
Now that the Mouse has roared he’s in a pickle, which leaves him with the military option of vast and utter destruction of Ukrainian cities as well as Russia’s economy.
IMHO he may have planned on not invading until he saw the weak and feckless Biden bumbling about and thought “Hey, why not???”.
If you think “6 weeks in and the Ukrainians are still fighting”/”Kiev has not been taken”/”Zelensky is still in charge” is propaganda I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The problem is that Putin has no designated heir. He didn’t want anyone to threaten him.
The result will be a new Russian civil war. But the Rus federation collapsing will lead to chaos
Something will fill the void of a collapsed Russia, and my guess that will be Turkey.
LOL, *ALL* MSM SMU on Ukraine is propaganda. Made all the more effective by cutting off any other narrative.
And, thanks, but no thanks, for the bridge offer.
I don’t agree.
The lands that are now russia won’t go to turkey.
Annalists also think that Putin can replace his loses by recruitment and realignment this time, but then he may need to do start total mobilization. I do not believe that would be popular in Russia.
Anyway, his best forces has been decimated already, all replacement will be worse. And, he is running out of smart ammo and smart missiles.
Mostly using traditional artillery and bombs.
That’s not what I meant, I mean Turkey will be free to start rebuilding The Ottoman Empire.
Exactly. Maybe this time the people can win
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yes, Kiev has NOT been taken
Russia itself announced it was retreating from Kiev
(just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean the World isn’t out to get you!)
Ah, ok. Though where? The Balkans and Greece can handle Turkey together, plus they are NATO.
Syria, maybe, but then the Ottoman-Safavid wars will restart.
I believe we have done the same in past wars...Experience counts.
Believe last time US Military Retirees were recalled to active duty enmasse was World War II.
These same Freepers have fawned for decades over the fact that the foreign press is far more reliable than the MSM, as examples the German press correctly reporting on Palin's campaign; the Israeli press correctly reporting on anti-Obama sentiment; the Oz press correctly reporting on Gore sexually harrassing a licensed massage therapist; and more recently, Freepers praising the Daily Mail for revealing Xiden's frailty when he nearly broke his neck on AF1's stairs:
Nothing to see here: How most of the left-leaning US media totally ignored Biden's Air Force One stumble - while the foreign press did their job for them, UK Daily Mail | March 20 2021 | KEITH GRIFFITH
So you Putlim moonbats stfu and slurp your borscht and enjoy your daily ration of vodka. Your 2024 ballot with one name on it: Putin, will be delivered shortly, already checkmarked.
The warmongers love the Daily Mail. It gets their rocks off. There is nothing like getting excellent military analysis from British socialists who otherwise report on fashion and what the Queen is wearing today.
does not mesh well with our side’s propaganda of “6 weeks in and the Ukrainians are still fighting”/”Kiev has not been taken”/”Zelensky is still in charge”. You are coming to a conclusion, based on our sides ‘propaganda’. I’m coming from a POV that there is a 40,000 foot view
***Dude, that IS the 40k foot view. Ukes are still fighting, Kieyyeieeyyyev has not been taken, and Zelly is still in charge. That part aint propaganda. You don’t even know how to identify propaganda versus basic news.
Yup, the 40,000 foot view.
There are some negatives. Yes, Zelly is a weirdo. Yes, Ukraine is corrupt and so is RUssia and so are we. Yes, the Ukes gave up their nukes in the Budapest Agreement, and were stupid to do so. Yes, the battle lines are converging on the oil & gas reserves. No, Russia has not invaded any NATO member.
Yes this thing could go on for years. With that possibility in mind, do ya think Ukraine will join NATO or not? Will they sign away territory for peace and permanent vassalhood?
When you know, you know... and what you don't know, you don't.
Expand your thinking, if you want. Don't if you prefer not.
Unless you see it with your eyes(that eliminates ALL TV/Radio/Internet), it may or may not be truth.
Telling me that the 40,000 foot view is what I/we get thru MSM is folly. What you refer to as "basic news" *is* propaganda. Interchangeable terms. Might as well just keep focused on family, friends, job, kids education, church/synagogue, nagging back, yard.
Bear in mind that ALL news, from MSM to the locals, is run by the AP.
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