BS.
Russian atrocities at Bucha Massacre 
Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7
Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.
The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:
Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.
During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.
With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:
For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.
Both sides are using the exact SAME weapons and ammo, and the same tactics.
Hard to know who’s doing what
Uh…. No.
Everyone is lying.
Including our government.
L
Russian armies in particular have always been bad news for the civilian populations of friend and foe alike.
Add to that Zelensky encouraging civilians to act as illegal combatants and this was bound to happen.
I was wondering how long it would take you to post the Kremlin’s talking points on this subject.
This is VERY SIMILAR to Israel tying to deal with the Palestinians. Even when Israel is shooting down missiles that are targeting residential areas, they are ATTACKED in the media for being mean.
So the incentive for the Palestinians, knowing that the media is behind them 100%, is to get as many civilians killed as possible (even if that means doing that work themselves, in some cases).
So, if the MEDIA would report fairly (which allows getting things wrong on occasion, but NOT always wrong in the same direction), then civilians would be MUCH SAFER in conflict areas.
Saw nothing objectively convincing, except photos that didn’t look right, couldn’t be verified and could have been staged.
But then again I’m hoping Putin gets the Eastern territories and the global elites, multi-national neo-communists, George Soros, Fox News whores, The Council on Foreign Relations, neocons, The Bushes, CNN and all these FR mystery meat members go choke on their own bile and tears.
I’ll be doing my snoopy dance.
Putin is learning what happens when you surround yourself with kleptocrats and give them billions to modernize the military. Kleptocrats gotta klept.
If Putin survives his disaster, he might want to get rid of the yes men and bring in some realists.
This author assumes the Russians have more missiles, more aircraft, and more troops in reserve. They don’t.
The reality is that the Russians are fighting this war with the most conventional power they can bring to bear.
They are woefully short of advanced weapons systems, their tactics are criminally pathetic, their logistics reeks of corruption, and now it’s starting to look like some of the grievous losses the Russians have suffered were from Russian friendly fire.
A Russian column on the E105 north of Kharkiv was discovered to have been destroyed in the early stages of the war and the wreckage is only now being discovered. The Ukrainians disavow responsibility for the destruction. Which means the Russians killed each other.
What a circus.
As for the atrocities the first one is Russia invading Ukraine. That’s the only one that matters here.
Once the Russian troops crossed into Ukraine they took their chances. Let them go back to Russia and the atrocities end.
Otherwise I wish the Ukrainian people good hunting and perhaps they might take a note from Vlad Tepes on how to deal with invaders.
I was wondering how long it would take you to post the Kremlin’s talking points on this subject.
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Do realize the propaganda and lies are without ceasing. Some Ukrainian fake propaganda you should be aware of:
1) For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real.
2) When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves.
3) When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’.
4) When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant.
5) When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces
Zelensky and Vlad have one thing in common, they are both evil and corrupted.
My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army. Among the unsettling things that he witnessed was anarchy breaking out as civilian law and order collapsed in the wake of the army.
Gangs take over. Vendettas get settled. Civilians are prey. The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain.
One side invaded the other and has leveled cities.
As proven by American satellite pictures, Ukrainians bypassed Russian patrols when Bucha was under Russian control, tied up and shot Ukranian civilians in the back of the head, randomly placed them along city streets then sneaked back out.
Tells you all you need to know.
Why would they do that?
It would be very stupid.
It is much more likely they intended to decapitate the government and install their own puppet, exactly as they did in Afghanistan and in several other countries over the years.
That plan failed.
This is an attempt to say: We really meant things to happen this way, no matter how much it looks like we failed.
As for the atrocities the first one is Russia invading Ukraine
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Wrong, the first were committed by Ukraine in 2015 when they started shelling the ethnic Russian eastern independent provinces. 22,000 deaths by Ukrainian Territorial Defense forces, many Azov units, have been reported and are on record with the UN.
Sorry Ben,
A citizen of his own country when attacked by another invading force even when not in a military status and uniform cannot be an illegal combatant. He, by implicit and explicit fact of nationality, has a duty to defend his country. He may an irregular, but not an unlawful combatant.
Just look at our oath of citizenship, “ support abd defend the US constitution...”.
Born citizens implicitly have the same duty as an immigrant who explicitly takes an oath of citizenship.
On what evidence do you base that assertion?
When Russia called for a UN investigation of Bucha, the British government vetoed it.
BS.
Russian atrocities at Bucha Massacre
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