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To: delta7

My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army. Among the unsettling things that he witnessed was anarchy breaking out as civilian law and order collapsed in the wake of the army.

Gangs take over. Vendettas get settled. Civilians are prey. The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain.


12 posted on 04/05/2022 4:48:03 PM PDT by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Pelham
The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain.

You're spouting complete BS. ALL the surviving locals are saying the same thing-the Russian soldiers took the men and shot them, some right in front of their wives.

36 posted on 04/05/2022 5:07:08 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Pelham

“Gangs take over. Vendettas get settled. Civilians are prey. The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain.”

So very true.


38 posted on 04/05/2022 5:08:14 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Pelham

My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army.
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Same stories from my father, 86th Infantry Div WW2. They were just “ stories”, then, until I participated in the Colombian drug wars and saw for myself. Both Uribe and the FARC committed atrocities, and both lied about them, and both accused each other.
Today’s “ kids” whom have never been in a war are getting sucked in by their “ emotions “, propaganda and don’t have the sense to realize western MSM has an agenda.
What bothers me is during Trump’s time, it was fact the news was FAKE, but now suddenly the brain dead want to believe the fake news…
Don’t get sucked in.


43 posted on 04/05/2022 5:13:19 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Pelham
"My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army. Among the unsettling things that he witnessed was anarchy breaking out as civilian law and order collapsed in the wake of the army.

Gangs take over. Vendettas get settled. Civilians are prey. The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain."

Thank you for the common sense reminder.

What strikes me is the phoney shock and outrage when we see civilians being killed during war when a few weeks ago we saw lots of Ukrainian video featuring civilians lining up to get their brand new AKs.

108 posted on 04/05/2022 6:03:02 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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