Posted on 04/04/2022 7:04:19 AM PDT by Mariner
J.D. Vance was on the warpath. “Using American power to do the dirty work of Europe is a pretty bad idea,” he told a crowd on Thursday, warning against the U.S. getting more involved in Ukraine. “We don’t have that many non-insane people in Washington. I need you to be some of them.”
Vance wasn’t speaking at a campaign stop in Ohio, where he is running for the U.S. Senate, but at the Marriott Marquis hotel in downtown Washington. The audience consisted of over one hundred mostly younger conservatives, and he was sounding the alarm about not just foreign intervention, but about other conservatives — the worrisome resurgence of the Republican establishment.
The event was the “Up From Chaos” conference, a self-described “emergency” meeting organized by the Trumpian wing of the GOP to grapple with the political fallout from Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. The young men, almost all of them soberly dressed in dark suits, and women, almost uniformly wearing dresses, listened attentively as one speaker after another warned about the perils of intervention for their very own lives. A return to the thinking that led to Iraq and Afghanistan could result in nothing less than World War III over Ukraine, they were warned.
And so, as Putin’s deadly and unprovoked assault drags on, the GOP is also going to war — against itself.
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Of note, almost all neocons will deny being such.
But you can spot them by their words and actions...if you're not a neocon.
And Free Republic is thick with them.
Unprovoked?
There’s now a couple of FReepers that won’t even consider the Powell Doctrine, as they consider Powell a failure. In other words, these FReepers have a lack of discernment.
Isolationists come in all sorts of garbs.
Good for J.D. Vance. DJT needs to restate his anti-interventionist position of the 2016 campaign.
Good for him.
You can trust JD Vance about as far as you can throw Stacey Abrams.
Hard to see an upside to exchanging nuclear weapons with Russia, but then I’m not a neoconservative (or a Democrat) either.
Guy was a globalist never-Trumper.
This article really must have hit a nerve.
It brought out the FR Neocons in force!
And so do emotional reactionary turncoats.
“DJT needs to restate his anti-interventionist position of the 2016 campaign.”
Unfortunately, he’s not.
It’s starting to look like he has abandoned America first foreign policy.
He would “do more” to support Ukraine.
“You can trust JD Vance about as far as you can throw Stacey Abrams.”
Nobody is being asked to trust JD Vance.
Re: 9 - Does not mean that the Powell Doctrine is not sound.
“It brought out the FR Neocons in force!”
It’s one war they do not relish.
You know them because they always believe we have some kind of righteous role in involving the US in other countries business and wars.
There is never a place where the neocon won’t find a need for a war.
They always start with kindling emotions making Americans feel it is their job to engage in foreign wars. “Oh, the poor....blah blah blah, they need our form of democracy ruling over them, we must save them and then boss them”.
They disgust me and are responsible for many deaths and maimed bodies for absolutely nothing.
“And Free Republic is thick with them.”
It seems to me like there are a lot more, either real or trolls, in the last 6 months.
Trump is a populist. When in office the people were war weary to he reflected that. Now there is sympathy for Ukraine he also reflects that.
It’s a concern but he will do what’s popular IMO.
I’m disappointed as I thought we made progress. I still think we have.
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