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Russia no longer demanding Ukraine be ‘denazified’ in ceasefire talks
Financial Times ^ | 3/28/2022 | Max Seddon

Posted on 03/28/2022 12:57:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Russia is no longer requesting Ukraine be “denazified” and is prepared to let Kyiv join the EU if it remains military non-aligned as part of ongoing ceasefire negotiations, according to four people briefed on the discussions.

Moscow and Kyiv are discussing a pause in hostilities as part of a possible deal that would involve Ukraine abandoning its drive for Nato membership in exchange for security guarantees and the prospect to join the EU, the people said under the condition of anonymity because the matter is not yet finalised.

The draft ceasefire document does not contain any discussion of three of Russia’s initial core demands — “denazification”, “demilitarisation”, and legal protection for the Russian language in Ukraine — the people added.

Envoys from both sides are to meet in Istanbul on Tuesday in a fourth round of peace talks designed to end president Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The concessions on Russia’s side come as its month-long ground offensive has largely stalled as a result of fiercer Ukrainian resistance than expected and Russian operational deficiencies.

But Ukraine and its western backers remain sceptical of Putin’s intentions, worrying that the Russian president could be using the talks as a smokescreen to replenish his exhausted forces and plan a fresh offensive.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
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To: DoughtyOne

Putin will not get any more Ukrainian territory than what he controlled before his invasion.


41 posted on 03/28/2022 1:34:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: TChad

Mr Z is told what he is allowed to accept and what not.

At this point, his existence depends on our support and we own him.


42 posted on 03/28/2022 1:41:50 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Brilliant

The Nazis are Ukrainians, not Russians.


43 posted on 03/28/2022 1:43:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BiglyCommentary

What are you trying to say?


44 posted on 03/28/2022 1:43:40 PM PDT by Red6
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To: marcusmaximus

“The draft negotiation agreements have been leaked consistently to the Financial Times by the Russian negotiators.”

Who are, as I noted, anonymous

Anonymous - adjective - (of a person) not identified by name; of unknown name.

The problem with anonymous sources is that the reader has to take it on faith that the source exists and is accurately described. Personally, I am through with believing news articles sourced anonymously. Some will choose differently.


45 posted on 03/28/2022 1:44:09 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: BenLurkin; HollyB
So this means Zelensky can stay in power?

On today's The Duran, the boys were saying that The Central Bank of Ukraine has spent 99.2 percent of its available reserves for the war.

THAT'S gonna leave a mark...

46 posted on 03/28/2022 1:45:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: JonPreston

Ha! So true!


47 posted on 03/28/2022 1:51:09 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: marcusmaximus
If you're right, I'd be surprised.

It just so happens that the southern part of the Ukraine
has very large natural gas deposits. Russia's occupation
traces the map of that field on land, and extends out to
the land area that can access the under sea area from land.

Russia just annexed all land that has access to the AZOV
natural gas deposits region, both on land land under the
sea.

I don't see him giving that back.


48 posted on 03/28/2022 1:51:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: kiryandil

Have you heard about this new venture digital Ukraine started up.

It’s called Diia as an app. But there’s also Diia ‘city’. Here are some links I saved. Still trying to figure it out.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/zapusk-diya-city-dast-ukrayini-zmogu-stati-najbilshim-it-hab-72753

https://egap.in.ua/en/projects/diia-digital-state/

https://www.kinstellar.com/upload/Diia%20City%20newsletter%20-%20Eng%20-%2014122021.pdf


49 posted on 03/28/2022 1:55:27 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: 9YearLurker
The Nazis are Ukrainians, not Russians.

So the Ukrainian "nazis" are fighting to the death to defend Jewish Ukrainian President Zelensky?

50 posted on 03/28/2022 1:59:59 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: marcusmaximus

So not a member of Nato on paper only? If this is true Russia has capitulated.


51 posted on 03/28/2022 2:05:49 PM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: marcusmaximus
I don't think Russia is quite to the point of giving up some of their gains in the east, including a land bridge to Crimea. But abandoning regime change and demilitarization, and allowing for EU membership are major concessions. "Denazifying" was always a BS justification and goal, so no surprise there and no impact on either side.

The question is will Biden agree for the U.S. to be one of Ukraine’s security guarantors? Right now, the only countries on board are UK and Turkey.

We shouldn't agree to give them more than what we are already giving them, weapons and intel. And both have been incredibly valuable. We could give/sell them some different weapons, help them build an integrated air defense system, command and control, etc. I would expect Poland, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia to have more direct interest but without the USA they are afraid to poke the bear.

Turkey alone could shift the balance heavily against Russia, but I'm not sure they could be trusted. If the opportunity presented, Turkey would probably use any conflict to expand her "empire" into Armenia, Georgia and Northern Syria or Iraq, and possibly try to establish a presence in Crimea. Or they could make a side deal with Russia and break their word.

52 posted on 03/28/2022 2:09:02 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: escapefromboston

Given that apparently they have destroyed the Azov brigade, this is not a point for negotiation any more.


53 posted on 03/28/2022 2:10:15 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: marcusmaximus

According to FR Putin Puffers cheering mass murder of women and children, Ukraine is solid Nazi...lol


54 posted on 03/28/2022 2:11:11 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: JonPreston

There are no Nazis in Ukraine...just possibly many in Russia.


55 posted on 03/28/2022 2:12:58 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: BenLurkin

The globalists would sacrifice 1000 tines the population of Ukraine to remive putin and teplace him with a globalist like zelensky. Biden said it out loud because it is about regime change in Russia Russia Russia.
Then they can have the new world order biden talked about also. Soros and co are doing what they do. Russia and maybe China are the only holdouts to teue one world government.


56 posted on 03/28/2022 2:16:23 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: BenLurkin

So the basic trade would be that Russia gets a bigger chunk of the Ukraine — everything east of the Dnieper — and Ukraine gets to join NATO. In this scenario the eastern portion is big enough to be an effective buffer thus making a NATOized Ukraine acceptable to Russia. My first reaction is that that does not sound unreasonable.

That said, one problem I see with dividing along the Dneiper is that Kiev sits on the Dnieper, so Ukraine would end up with its capital sitting right on the border. To me that seems awkward. It makes me think the final deal will be that Russia keeps only the eastern breakaway republics and the Crimea, thus putting a comfortable margin around Kiev, and Ukraine agrees to no NATO membership.

I suspect the final negotiation will center on the nature and extent of the “security assurances” Ukraine will get from the West — i.e. whether it will be NATO membership in all but name or something more limited.


57 posted on 03/28/2022 2:17:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: dfwgator
Uhuh...




I guess the new Heil salute is fist to the chest, but some slip and do the original version, eh?

How about them flags.

Edumicate yourself

58 posted on 03/28/2022 2:18:55 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: Red6

“What are you trying to say?”

He she it is saying it is a triple vaxxed brandon blowing pedofile.


59 posted on 03/28/2022 2:25:47 PM PDT by chuckb87
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To: marcusmaximus

It seems to me that Ukraine should agree to this, just to stop all the death and destruction.

The Russians keep Crimea but NOT the entire Donetsk and Luhansk provinces, only just those places within the provinces that were already in rebellion.

It’s not like Ukraine controlled them on February 23rd and before, anyways.


60 posted on 03/28/2022 2:27:44 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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