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3 arrested after 'full-scale ghost gun factory' found inside San Jose home
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Posted on 02/23/2022 11:10:00 AM PST by algore

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To: FirstFlaBn

Well, I have some experience on this. My car was broken into last year and my backpack with a Ruger 9mm autoloader was stolen. I reported it to the police. However I was unable to find the serial number for that gun at home. So I just wrote it off. Then last month I got a letter from the USDoJ stating that it had been found in a drug raid not far from where it was stolen and they were seeking forfeiture. Apparently they have an illegal gun database now. As I’ve suspected for years. The gun has never been registered or otherwise recorded in any fashion except by the instant check and form filed at the time of purchase.


41 posted on 02/23/2022 11:48:07 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: rey

You CAN make your own weapons that are not serialized. You CANNOT sell them. You cannot sell a firearm you make yourself that was intended to be transferred to another unless you hold an appropriate license, serialize it, and keep records. You CANNOT transfer a weapon to someone outside of your family without the background check.


42 posted on 02/23/2022 11:48:16 AM PST by GingisK
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To: algore

A bar code would be more efficient.


43 posted on 02/23/2022 11:53:45 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: algore

I’d posit that that area of San Jose was safe because of the factory…


44 posted on 02/23/2022 12:00:29 PM PST by Skywise
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To: Who is John Galt?

In the early days of license plates, it was more of a name tag so people could tell their vehicle from someone else’s absent some kind of customization to the vehicle.

Then the States started REQUIRING them to ensure taxes were paid etc... Once again, government takes a not bad idea and uses it to screw with people and extort money from us.

Now it’s being ramped up in the 2A argument because government is scared of not knowing who has what... No other reason. It’s about CONTROL. Their control over US.


45 posted on 02/23/2022 12:01:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: GingisK

According to the law only. However, said laws are not in line with the Constitution which would otherwise give such laws their legitimacy.

Meaning, the only way they can enforce such arbitrary and capricious laws is with their own government guns via force.

We used to not like such things and fought wars to prevent it.


46 posted on 02/23/2022 12:03:50 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: circlecity
“Why are so called ghost guns illegal? I fail to see anything in the 2 A that says you may not make your own weapon and that it must have a serial number.” Under Federal law it is only illegal to sell them. Most states they are legal to posses. California is just a fascist state.

Close, but no cigar. It is unlawful to "manufacture in ORDER to sell". There is no Federal restrictions to selling home built firearms. Only, "recommendations".
47 posted on 02/23/2022 12:15:28 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: algore

So there were 8 semi-auto rifles - protected under the 2nd Amendment, even if illegal under Commiefornia law - and 2 handguns.

A “full-scale ghost gun factory...” Morons! A full-scale factory would involve having at least 5-10 Ghost Gunner 2 CNC machines along with hundreds of 80% receivers ready to be machined into 100% receivers. They had no such thing there, not even close. On top of that - and MUCH more importantly - the (utterly unconstitutional) Commiefornia law against so-called “ghost guns” isn’t even in effect yet. So what’s illegal about it? What’s the difference if they were making one for each of them, or 50 for each of them?

What a complete POS article.


48 posted on 02/23/2022 12:16:29 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Seruzawa

That form (4473) that you filled out at purchase traces the gun to you as the original buyer, assuming it was a new gun at the time. When guns are recovered by any form of police a check is started. It goes from the mfr to the distributor to the store that sold it. The store looks up who they sold it to and you get a call.

Note for future reference: if you lose a gun, file a police report even if you can’t describe it completely. Note also that, in your case, Ruger has always serialized their guns so that if you buy one new, it will always trace to you. FWIW that whole tracing operation rarely takes more than a day. Some states have a law requiring reporting missing guns. Failing that can get you a nasty phone call.


49 posted on 02/23/2022 12:17:32 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: algore

Prohibitions never work. The failed drug war is proof. We learned back in 1933 that prohibitions don’t work, but just cause black market crime to soar, and that feeds other crime.

If you ban guns, you get illegal guns. That is just how it works.

Liberals are idiots.


50 posted on 02/23/2022 12:18:00 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: GingisK; rey

“You CAN make your own weapons that are not serialized. You CANNOT sell them. You cannot sell a firearm you make yourself that was intended to be transferred to another unless you hold an appropriate license, serialize it, and keep records. You CANNOT transfer a weapon to someone outside of your family without the background check.”


According to the unconstitutional federal firearms laws on the books, together with the unconstitutional regulations promulgated by an agency that sounds like the ideal convenience store (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - you want it, we’ve got it!)


51 posted on 02/23/2022 12:19:06 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Who is John Galt?

“I saw a ‘ghost car’ once - no license plate, front OR rear, and no paperwork taped to the back window, either. “

Are you from California? You know there is actually a laws against that... even brand new cars need temp “dealer plates” I wonder if you are considered an accessory now for not reporting the sighting. You better lay low for awhile.


52 posted on 02/23/2022 12:21:06 PM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: algore

The suspects were identified as Joseph Cahoon, 31, of Morgan Hill, and San Jose residents Jack Mahon, 38, and Amanda Bazzani, 32.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2022/02/22/ghost-gun-factory-san-jose-willow-glen-roy-ave-arrests/


53 posted on 02/23/2022 12:21:40 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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"full scale" ammunition plant


Clearly a small hobby room.

54 posted on 02/23/2022 12:23:10 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: OldWarBaby

No worries there. I definitely report any such thefts. It’s only happened once and ever since that boat trip I have no more worries on that score.


55 posted on 02/23/2022 12:24:39 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: rey
Ask the ATF.

Why are guns classified as legal or illegal? ATF Agent finds out.

56 posted on 02/23/2022 12:25:18 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: algore

“eight assault weapons, like AK and AR-style rifles, as well as two handguns. “

Ten guns??? Amateurs. And OH SO SCARY to have “untraceable” guns. As if a criminal would never think of grinding off a serial number.


57 posted on 02/23/2022 12:25:52 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

That’s a high-capacity tactical drill press I see there. With one of those things that go up.


58 posted on 02/23/2022 12:26:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Ancesthntr

Stores in Idaho sell those things. And in Victor, Idaho you can get a Huckleberry milk shake to go with your fireworks and box of 30-06s.


59 posted on 02/23/2022 12:27:33 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Organic Panic

Need an untraceable gun? Just look in the socks of any police detective.


60 posted on 02/23/2022 12:29:24 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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