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To state the obvious, people die of many things other than covid, and reducing covid deaths must be balanced against other goals.

1 posted on 02/23/2022 6:28:02 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

The experimental vaccines with secret clinical testing data can’t possibly have anything to do with it.


2 posted on 02/23/2022 6:29:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: karpov

No shirt Sherlock.


3 posted on 02/23/2022 6:30:35 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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My comment was meant for the author.


4 posted on 02/23/2022 6:31:13 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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Sherlock enters the chat...


6 posted on 02/23/2022 6:34:15 AM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: karpov

To ask the obvious question, why was this not a thing at the start of 2021 after a year of lockdowns but only a thing at start of 2022 after the first year of jabs?


8 posted on 02/23/2022 6:36:27 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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Anything to avoid blaming the Jim Jones Jabs.

Going forward, those that retired instead of dealing with the mandates and lockdowns won't show up in the insurers' data which consists of working individuals on group plans.

9 posted on 02/23/2022 6:38:09 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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If this is true, e.g. dismissing any impact whatsoever from the virus or the ‘vaccines’, then it is evidence of the appalling state of health in this country I’ve been drumbeating for nearly 10 years.

And that’s AFTER the deaths of nearly a million, mostly sickly Americans at the hands of the tyrants’ servants.


12 posted on 02/23/2022 6:43:52 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Industry executives and actuaries believe many of these other fatalities are tied to delays in medical care as a result of lockdowns in 2020, and then, later, people’s fears of seeking out treatment and trouble lining up appointments.

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This would be the “best case” scenario for them & is the “public face” they’re putting on what could be a “COVID 19 injection” disaster that is ramping up. Some ‘re-insurance’ to offload risk is happening. It’s a very interesting situation. Wall Street is catching on that there was fraud in the trials ... Moderna stock is dropping & Pfizer is bobbing up/down, sort of like a drowning person flailing & grabbing gulps of air. The Big Boys are going to end up in a battle: Big Pharma vs Big Insurance. Smart money is on Big Insurance. (Source: Edward Dowd - his analysis/data is fascinating)


15 posted on 02/23/2022 6:45:25 AM PST by Qiviut (🍊 #standup "Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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The commie cure has been far worse than the sickness.


20 posted on 02/23/2022 6:51:49 AM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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“Among the non-coronavirus-specific claims are deaths from heart and circulatory issues and neurological disorders”

Quite a coincidence. The same areas of concern we have seen from the injections. But, I guess the Wall Street Journal has thoroughly examined research into that - well, as thorough as they can with what the CDC shoves under their nose as data.

Stating anything beyond the official line could get a paper in big trouble these days.


22 posted on 02/23/2022 6:56:39 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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It’s almost laughable how they don’t bother to mention the 900 lb. gorilla in the room.


26 posted on 02/23/2022 6:59:17 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: karpov

So how many will be solvent?


27 posted on 02/23/2022 7:14:11 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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28 posted on 02/23/2022 7:22:17 AM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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The spike is much too large to be accounted for solely by failure to go to the doctors. There are also the other problems caused by lockdowns, which put people in jeopardy a million different ways; and the open borders, which impact health through drugs, violence and contagion.

My best guess is that spike protein is bolloxing our bodies in every possible way. It is a bioweapon that has spread throughout the population. In a few more years, there will be a crisis of infertility and maybe another one of birth defects. More young people will be dying of heart disease, and we may see new contagions that shouldn't kill but do because of weakened immunity.

32 posted on 02/23/2022 7:39:52 AM PST by Missouri gal
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Sure, that’s it. Lots of excess mortality because of lack of treatment and hesitation to get medical attention.

Why didn’t we all think of that?

Got it.


33 posted on 02/23/2022 7:55:23 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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Was just reading that.

Lots of issues. Some is delayed care. Some is a result of depression/isolation.

But what ever is doing it, it is big enough the death industry is seeing boom times beyond covid.


36 posted on 02/23/2022 8:15:43 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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the unwarranted panic, useless lockdowns, and economic destruction deliberately induced by Democrat demagogues and their wholly-owned media subsidiaries were the major cause of massive excess death rate increases. Along with outlawing the use of effective therapeutics such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and then nationally withdrawing monoclonal antibodies, the DELIBERATE mass murder of our populace by the Democrats has set a record for mass murder in the U.S. that will probably stand until the end of our Republic.


37 posted on 02/23/2022 8:25:10 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science ...)
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Watching to see if and when the insurance companies sue the drug makers or government, even thought there is alleged immunity.


38 posted on 02/23/2022 8:41:54 AM PST by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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Shortly after Covid was just out of its starting blocks, the lack of care took our grandkids’ other grandmother and one of my best friends. They died in homes for seniors with total lack of care and not allowing family members or good friends to visit them before they died.

Then, the postponement of needed health care and or surgery took a couple of more lives via new diseases or worsening of diseases with some of our friends and relatives.

My wife had cataract surgery and developed floaters. I had the same problem a couple of years before. I went into the same day surgery center and had the laser zapping done. She had her zapping done in the doctors office.

My second toe on my right foot was starting to cross over my big toe/aka hammer toe. Any walking was painful.

After a couple of scheduled surgeries were postponed due to Covid. My podiatrist lopped off that toe in his exam room and sent me home. I did fine.

One of our SILs had not had a real physical for 2+ year and ended up with acute onset Adult leukemia and died via hospice in her home 2 months after the diagnosis was made from a simple but not ordered blood test due to the Covid hysteria at her local MD and hospital level.

Also, some people like my wife has had a hip replacement on hold for a year+. She is finally scheduled for her hip replacement in 10 days from now. Her hip sounds like a cement mixer truck when she walks. She has been in pain 24/7
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Industry executives and actuaries believe many of these other fatalities are tied to delays in medical care as a result of lockdowns in 2020, and then, later, people’s fears of seeking out treatment and trouble lining up appointments.

Trade group American Council of Life Insurance said the pandemic in 2020 drove the biggest annual increase in death benefits paid by U.S. carriers since the 1918 influenza epidemic, totaling billions of dollars. The hit to the industry’s bottom line has been less than initially feared, however, because many victims have been older people who typically have smaller policies, if any coverage.

Some insurers see continued high levels of these deaths for some time, even if Covid-19 deaths decline this year.

In earnings calls for the past two quarters, Globe Life Inc., Hartford Financial Services Group Inc., Primerica Inc. and Reinsurance Group of America Inc. were among insurers noting higher non-Covid-19 deaths, compared with pre-pandemic baselines.


43 posted on 02/23/2022 9:20:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Encourage and fund our liberals & Antifa to move to Canada. Conservative Canadians can move here!)
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Psssst! It’s the vaccines!


48 posted on 02/23/2022 10:49:39 AM PST by oil_dude
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