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Putin Speech: Russia Declares Formal Recognition Of Ukraine Separatist Regions As Sovereign States
Infowars.com ^ | February 21st 2022, 12:35 pm | Jonny Tickle and Gabriel Gavin

Posted on 02/21/2022 5:19:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: BlackAdderess

We did the same thing with Kosovo...... ‘recognized Kosovo’ and then even bombed Serbia to take the territory from them but now Biden is this is illegal and goes against International Law........ Somehow by his double standards it wasn’t illegal when it was done to Serbia.....go figure.


41 posted on 02/21/2022 7:45:07 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly....Biden seems to think only the US Government has the right to recognize break away areas.


42 posted on 02/21/2022 7:46:40 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: CatHerd

Because Jones has been correct and has been far more accurate than any other MSM, including FOX which basically tells you what the GOPe wants you to know.


43 posted on 02/21/2022 7:47:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

1. It’s infowars
2. Putin has criticized Lenin in the past, but still sees him as a “national hero” and the “founder of Modern Russia”. In fact Lenin is still on display in Moscow in his Masoleum!
3. Stalinism is where it is at in Rissia now. He is being rehabilitated.


44 posted on 02/21/2022 8:04:11 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Alex is usually right.

Yuri Bezmenov predicted everything that’s happening today in 1985. This has been a slow rolling boulder for many many years. Sadly it might be too big to stop. Too little too late.


45 posted on 02/21/2022 8:18:10 PM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Not bad.


46 posted on 02/21/2022 8:19:58 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hi Vlad !

47 posted on 02/21/2022 8:57:20 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: unclebankster

Russia lost the support of most Ukrainians:

A) Before WW2.

B) During the time of the USSR following WW2.

C) And reinforced during Viktor Yanukovych’ presidency.

Russia can’t lose what they already lost.

It is true many ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine stuck with pro-Russian attitudes. However, I really wonder if that support is as universal as Putin would claim. In several years, the separatists, with strong assistance from Russia, have not been able to take much over 1/3 of Donbass.

In fact, I think Putin is moving now partially because of that stalemate, and partially because a weak US President gives him an opening.


48 posted on 02/21/2022 10:26:13 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

You are certainly correct in thinking that the separatists receive assistance from Russia. They were initially organized and financed by Russia. My wife is from Alchevsk near Lugansk and she is a Russian speaker but 100 percent pro Ukraine. Any plebiscite will be corrupted by Russia just as was done in the Crimea. If one could get a fair vote, then Kaliningrad would vote to leave Russia and be part of Germany again.


49 posted on 02/21/2022 10:53:07 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( "...To the barricades...")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would like to hear the rebuttle and reasoning against the Russian leaders’ speech.


50 posted on 02/21/2022 11:21:04 PM PST by conserv8 ("Oh no. My mark dosen't work!")
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To: unclebankster

I partially agree, in that most of the sanctions I’ve heard of so far will not knock off Putin. Some are just pathetic responses.

Better would be a 5 year project to render Russia irrelevant as an energy supplier. Granted that the West will have to do some serious rethinking of energy policy, but it is quite doable. Double US gas production. Initiate immediately.

Cut off all SWIFT transactions to / from Russia and Russian allies. Either we are serious about this, or we are not. If major hacking or DOS attacks occur as retaliation, chop ‘em off from the web. (Yes, a major project, I realize.) If they want to develop their own system with China, fine. They’ll regret it.

Bleed ‘em / guerilla war. A starter would be to supply Ukraine with 2 Javelin missiles for every piece of Russian armor near Ukraine, plus any satellite / location info. needed. Provide 2x the number of UAV’s. In return, we get cheap lithium in the future.

All Euro NATO members immediately enact 3% defense spending with emphasis on immediate procurements not requiring large manpower resources. If Putin is worried about NATO’s currently unaggressive position now, make him sweat about what NATO could be in 5 years if provoked.


51 posted on 02/22/2022 12:15:10 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

My Dad, years ago, had a good friend from Ukraine, maybe 10 years older than my Dad, the friend back then living in the same city as my Dad’s parents. The friend as a young man had observed the Russians in Ukraine in the late ‘30’s, then the Germans, then after the Germans were driven out, the Russians again. I only recall bits and pieces, but especially I recall him telling us: “The Nazis were terrible. The Russians were worse!” He eventually managed to escape and made it to the US.

Sometimes he’d share a little incredibly good wine, and say “to celebrate our freedom here.” Afterward Dad would have to stop on the way back to my Grandma’s for mint chewing gum so Grandma wouldn’t smell the wine on our breath. (Grandma was a fierce Methodist.) ;-)


52 posted on 02/22/2022 12:51:23 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I gotta agree with you on that last. It’s clear now any talk of negotiation by Putin was misdirection.

Particularly noticeable are Putin’s moves right after Olympics. Remember the friendly / cute bear at Sochi?


53 posted on 02/22/2022 12:55:56 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Putin used a false flag to attack Georgia. Stop screaming about neocons, KGB troll.
Putin made the case that Ukraine shouldn't exist in a series of lies and half Truths. He's channeling Hitler's revanchism and irridentism.
Russians are illegally occupying Ukrainian territory and have since 2014. Our sons are in NATO countries to make it clear that Russia cannot invade NATO countries using this handbook..
54 posted on 02/22/2022 1:12:07 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Paul R.

My maternal grandmother was an old-fashioned strict Methodist too. Solzhenitsyn said that we should not refer to the communists as Russians as the Russians were the first victims of communism. But now we have the post Soviet Russians allowing Putin and his corrupt buddies to whitewash Soviet history and allow one man to take on more power than the last Czar ever had.


55 posted on 02/22/2022 1:16:32 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( "...To the barricades...")
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To: conserv8

Well, for one thing, what major Western leader has advocated for Ukraine to regain nukes?

It’s one thing to say Ukraine should have demanded far greater security guarantees in return for giving up their nukes, or for some Ukrainian politician to muse “Uh, maybe it was a mistake to not keep a few for defense.”

It’s totally another for some Western power to say Ukraine should be re-armed with nukes now. What is Putin’s evidence?


56 posted on 02/22/2022 1:18:45 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Thunder90

Wow. You are so articulate.


57 posted on 02/22/2022 1:19:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: House Atreides
to be a separate country.
58 posted on 02/22/2022 1:33:48 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Monterrosa-24

Yeah, those are not bad points, esp. about the Russian people being the first victims of communism.

The crazy thing is, EVERYBODY (except maybe China and almost for sure some Muslim terrorists) would be better off if Putin had accepted Trump’s challenge to get past the old animosities and fears and work toward mutual benefit(s).


59 posted on 02/22/2022 1:57:44 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: PGR88
He's actually a voice of reason for Russian interests - and anyone who prays to topple him (which won't happen anyway), be prepared hardline nationalist and war-hawk instead.

LOL, so according to you, Putin is not a hardline nationalist or war-hawk?

60 posted on 02/22/2022 2:06:42 AM PST by tlozo
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