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Tesla faces another investigation this time for unexpected braking
Associated Press ^ | 02/17/2022 | Tom Krisher

Posted on 02/17/2022 11:18:19 AM PST by SaxxonWoods

U.S. auto safety regulators have launched another investigation of Tesla, this time tied to complaints that its cars can stop on roads for no apparent reason.

The government says it has 354 complaints from owners during the past nine months about “phantom braking” in Tesla Models 3 and Y. The probe covers an estimated 416,000 vehicles from the 2021 and 2022 model years.

No crashes or injuries were reported.

The vehicles are equipped with partially automated driver-assist features such as adaptive cruise control and “Autopilot,” which allows them to automatically brake and steer within their lanes.

Documents posted Thursday by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration say the vehicles can unexpectedly brake at highway speeds.

“Complainants report that the rapid deceleration can occur without warning, and often repeatedly during a single drive cycle,” the agency says.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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Better than unexpected acceleration, remember the Prius kerfluffle?
1 posted on 02/17/2022 11:18:19 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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Tesla soon to be investigated for suspicion of operating a non-union shop.


2 posted on 02/17/2022 11:20:32 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Wait a second. Is this related to the race debacle at the Tesla plant in caulifourneeuh?


3 posted on 02/17/2022 11:20:59 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Do Tesla programmers use Java or Ada?


4 posted on 02/17/2022 11:21:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: SaxxonWoods

Trying to decide if it would make more sense to say ‘unintended’ braking...


5 posted on 02/17/2022 11:21:51 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SaxxonWoods

Biden shakedown.


6 posted on 02/17/2022 11:22:01 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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Better than unexpected NOT BRAKING!......................


7 posted on 02/17/2022 11:23:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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8 posted on 02/17/2022 11:23:39 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: billorites

Wait until they find some conflict mineral or an SVHC chemical in Tesla cars. That’s probably further down of the list of harassment ploys.


9 posted on 02/17/2022 11:26:37 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: SaxxonWoods

Funny how Tesla is getting recalls after started calling our Biden…funny.


10 posted on 02/17/2022 11:27:18 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: SaxxonWoods

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.

In practice, there is.


Very complex systems that have bad consequences when they fail abruptly are a recipe for disaster.


11 posted on 02/17/2022 11:38:34 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: SaxxonWoods

Sounds like a Tesla drives itself at least as well as a drunk driver would.


12 posted on 02/17/2022 11:38:46 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: SaxxonWoods

It can happen with most any computer. They suddenly take a crap for no apparent reason.


13 posted on 02/17/2022 11:39:11 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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From a different article on The Drive:

A filing by NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) said that over the last nine months, the department has received 354 complaints of unexpected braking occurring whilst Tesla's Autopilot driver assistance system is activated. Around 416,000 vehicles are at the center of the probe, all of which are 2021 and 2022 Model 3s and Ys.

In 2021, Tesla removed the forward-facing radar from Model 3 and Y vehicles being sold in the United States and committed to using a camera-only form of its Autopilot system which it calls "Tesla Vision." The vehicles utilizing Tesla Vision are also the same ones involved in the investigation, though it's not clear if a link has been established between the removal of forward-facing radar and an increase in unexpected braking.

I wonder if removing the radar and relying strictly on the camera causes false collision avoidance stops when the camera detects a bug flying towards the lens?

14 posted on 02/17/2022 11:39:12 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Biden shakedown.

Musk has become increasingly outspoken on political issues in the USA and Canada

He is a target, for sure.

15 posted on 02/17/2022 11:43:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: GingisK

Maybe it’s BASIC. It had a STOP command. LOL


16 posted on 02/17/2022 11:51:55 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Sudden braking for no reason can likely cause a car behind you to collide with you. This could likely cause the battery pack to burst into flames. No issue here.


17 posted on 02/17/2022 12:10:44 PM PST by Revel
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To: Tell It Right

Aerospace applications typically use ADA because it is very reliable in mission critical situations. Maybe the Tesla blokes should take a look at it.


18 posted on 02/17/2022 12:16:02 PM PST by GingisK
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I didn’t know ADA was still a thing. I thought it’d gone the way of the 3420 tape drive.


19 posted on 02/17/2022 12:18:39 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Tesla could just adopt “Tora! Tora! Tora!” as their motto.


20 posted on 02/17/2022 12:36:07 PM PST by GingisK
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