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What About This Alleged Wave of Conservative Populism Due to Trump?
Townhall.com ^ | February 14, 2022 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 02/14/2022 5:03:56 AM PST by Kaslin

Under President Donald Trump, many conservatives started calling themselves populists. The term hasn’t been popular in significant numbers since the late Ross Perot ran unsuccessfully for president as a third party candidate in 1992. He was no conservative, falling somewhere between the left and the right on the spectrum. So what is this all about, some conservatives taking the term for themselves?

Just like Perot, there are elements of populism that overlap with conservatism, and elements that tilt more to the left. It sounds great; power to the people, not ruled by the elites. Trump railed against the deep state, called to drain the swamp and denounced the fake news media.

But some conservatives go so far as to declare populism is not conservative. Longtime radio talk show host Michael Medved devoted an entire article to arguing that it’s not. He says populism puts too much focus on being a victim, whereas true conservatism is all about individual responsibility. Ryan Streeter, writing for AEI, condemns this focus even more, blaming Trump for building up the mindset of conservatives as victims under the guise of populism.

Scholars Ronald Inglehart and Pippa Norris take a less negative analysis, contending that people are drawn to populism due to not liking how society is changing.

The typical characterization we usually hear is Trump is a populist due to his strong opposition to illegal immigration, his leanings toward trade protectionism, and scaling down U.S. military operations overseas. Well, all three of those have been considered regular conservative positions over the years. Reducing military involvement abroad used to be called “paleoconservative,” as opposed to the more interventionist “neocons.” Trade protectionism used to be characterized as “nationalist” and less libertarian. And opposing illegal immigration has been a consistent conservative position except for occasional exceptions over the years pushed by moderate business interests in the party, such as successfully implementing a guest worker program under President Ronald Reagan in 1986.

Colin Dueck, writing for the American Enterprise Institute, says the problem is people have different views on what populism means. While many of those on the right currently think of it positively, the left has come up with an “extremely sinister” definition of it, describing it as authoritarian.

He says the left has cleverly defined populism as those who “oppose political pluralism and minority rights … regularly indulge in conspiracy theories; favor aggressive forms of identity politics; disparage political opponents including ‘the establishment’ as downright illegitimate; erode constitutional norms; deliberately undercut civil society; press toward authoritarian forms of government; and thereby threaten the very bases of liberal democracy itself.”

Obviously, all of these are false or distortions, cleverly crafted by the left to make anyone on the right look bad. Business as usual.

The left lumps Trump in with authoritarian leaders like Hugo Chavez, Benito Mussolini, Vladimir Putin; interchangeably calling them fascists and populists. Look at articles from the mainstream media, especially the Associated Press; they use the same negative terms like “radical extremists” to describe leaders responsible for killing thousands or millions of people as they do Trump.

Dueck thinks a lot of voters who switched from voting for Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016, particularly during the primary, embodied the “classic populist position,” conservative on conservative issues but center-left on economic issues.

If Dueck’s definition is accurate, then it obviously is not the same as conservatism, and represents a radical shift. But there is nothing about Trump that goes along with a center-left position on economic issues. While he did little to stop spending from increasing — in order to get much done he made that compromise with the left — Reagan also failed to reign in spending as president and no one ever called him a populist. And most Trump supporters don’t identify as fiscal liberals.

It’s impossible to solely identify populism today as complaining about the status quo. While it’s true that populism rejects the status quo of rule by elites, there are far more reasons today than in Reagan’s era to complain; society has gone so far downhill in terms of both economic and social conservatism. The Democratic Party of today looks more like the Socialist Party of the Reagan era. And they’ve gotten away with it because they’ve outsmarted us. Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals used to be something merely used by hardcore grassroots fringe activists on the left. Now it’s everywhere, in every news article from the MSM, the same talking points using brutal tactics against the right. So regular conservatives everywhere are complaining about the status quo; their voices just appear magnified due to the internet and now social media.

Some of us are merely getting annoyed with all the complaining because while we’re doing it, the left has already plotted several chess moves ahead of us, outsmarting us. They constantly put us on the defensive, such as making the dialogue incessantly about Jan. 6 — while ignoring the violent Antifa and BLM rioting that has occurred repeatedly for years now. The same talking points all call it an “armed insurrection,” “threat to democracy” and discuss “storming the Capitol.” Instead of wailing when the left brings up Jan. 6, we should respond, “Did you see any Trump supporter at the rally who appeared to want to injure or kill anyone?” and change the topic, such as by bringing up a list of specific violent incidents by Antifa and BLM.

While there isn’t really much of a difference between conservatives who call themselves populists and other conservatives, it’s important to realize what is being done to the term. The left has mastered taking words and stigmatizing them in order to make the right look bad. If you’re America First, you’re xenophobic. If you praise Western Civilization, you’re racist. Next, they’ll tackle “conservative” and figure out how to make that look nefarious. So it’s impossible to discuss Trump conservatives as populists unless you’ve got a lot of free time. They merely think they’re Trump supporters, but the left has twisted the meaning.


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1 posted on 02/14/2022 5:03:57 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Michael Medved is a George Bush “conservative”. The type of conservatism that is espoused by snobbish Rockefeller Yankees living in New England states. That’s all you need to know about that limp wrist “conservative”.


2 posted on 02/14/2022 5:08:47 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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Michael Medved is a George Bush “conservative”. The type of conservatism that is espoused by snobbish Rockefeller Yankees living in New England states. That’s all you need to know about that limp wrist “conservative”.

Apparently in FReeperland, every "conservative" (living and dead) not named Donald J. Trump is a "limp wrist conservative".

3 posted on 02/14/2022 5:17:57 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: Kaslin
A strange article. I starts right off with the premise that 'populism' and 'conservatism' are mutually exclusive. As I see it, there is no reason for them not to easily co-exist.

Lexico defines 'populism' as "A political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups."

Sounds like Donald Trump's platform to me.

4 posted on 02/14/2022 5:20:24 AM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: foreverfree

Is that you Michael Medved?


5 posted on 02/14/2022 5:24:16 AM PST by ohioman
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To: foreverfree
Apparently in FReeperland, every "conservative" (living and dead) not named Donald J. Trump is a "limp wrist conservative".

Just as there are FReepers who vote for assistant democrats with an "R" next to their name.

6 posted on 02/14/2022 5:26:02 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: Kaslin
The typical characterization we usually hear is Trump is a populist due to his strong opposition to illegal immigration, his leanings toward trade protectionism, and scaling down U.S. military operations overseas. Well, all three of those have been considered regular conservative positions over the years. Reducing military involvement abroad used to be called “paleoconservative,” as opposed to the more interventionist “neocons.” Trade protectionism used to be characterized as “nationalist” and less libertarian. And opposing illegal immigration has been a consistent conservative position except for occasional exceptions over the years pushed by moderate business interests in the party, such as successfully implementing a guest worker program under President Ronald Reagan in 1986.

I don't think so. The conservative movement and conservatives in Congress have often been on the other side in practical terms.

7 posted on 02/14/2022 5:29:56 AM PST by x
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The conservative movement and conservatives in Congress

Most politicians have no core values, they just say what they think will get them elected. Behind close doors, they are all the same, and play for the "Big Team".

8 posted on 02/14/2022 5:31:07 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaslin

Yet the left almost always projects a positive image of Hugo Chavez, because he was supposedly fighting for the downtrodden or so they have always claimed. Did that change and I didn’t notice?


9 posted on 02/14/2022 5:47:10 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: foreverfree
Apparently in FReeperland, every "conservative" (living and dead) not named Donald J. Trump is a "limp wrist conservative".

Not me. I call these pansy assed RINO bush-leaguer types "fags."

10 posted on 02/14/2022 5:58:51 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Michael Medved has no following.


11 posted on 02/14/2022 6:23:46 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: Kaslin
While he did little to stop spending from increasing — in order to get much done he made that compromise with the left …

100% bullsh!t. The most profligate spenders in Washington for the last 20+ years have been REPUBLICANS …and Trump’s only “crime” in this regard is that he refused to veto bloated spending bills passed by a REPUBLICAN Congress during his first two years in office.

12 posted on 02/14/2022 6:26:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Kaslin
Defining some political terms of art:

Democracy == the consensus of the unelected elite.

Populism == democracy.

13 posted on 02/14/2022 6:33:25 AM PST by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Kaslin

many conservatives started calling themselves populists.


fake news


14 posted on 02/14/2022 6:38:46 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin

Folks, what is a conservative?

Please read this and let your lips move. Think about them, reflect on them.

If I shake you awake in the middle of the night and ask you what the Ten Principles of Conservatism are, after you reach for your gun, you should be able to tell me.

https://kirkcenter.org/conservatism/ten-conservative-principles/


15 posted on 02/14/2022 6:42:44 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: foreverfree

Romney, McCain bot speaks up...
After two years here you would think you learned something.


16 posted on 02/14/2022 6:58:50 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: Kaslin

Rachel Alexander is just another urinolist who just doesn’t get it!

Never did...

Never will...

Not worth the time.


17 posted on 02/14/2022 7:36:13 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

A very good read. thanks for posting it.

As a former liberal I can tell you that any attempting at ‘’bi-partiansanship’’ or co operation with liberal is impossible.

They want nothing less than complete control and they will never stop until they have.

We should NEVER let our guard down in dealing with the Left.


18 posted on 02/14/2022 7:37:37 AM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Years ago there were times when Limbaugh had Medved sub for him. That just stopped as I recall. There’s a reason for that. Last time I listened to his nonsense I just turned him off..


19 posted on 02/14/2022 7:40:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Alberta's Child
100% bullsh!t. The most profligate spenders in Washington for the last 20+ years have been REPUBLICANS …and Trump’s only “crime” in this regard is that he refused to veto bloated spending bills passed by a REPUBLICAN Congress during his first two years in office.

It is true that 12 years the Republicans had control of purse strings.

George Bush never said the "Buck Stops Here" which is a Conservative principle used by the previous Conservative Democrats.

Times have changed.

Second Bush signed off what ever Nancy Pelousy gave him and the other Republican Homosexual Leader of the House Reprublicans was Dennis Hastert and Bush signed off on the the very liberal budget process.

Yes, Dennis Hastert was a "Homo" and he was leader of the House of Representatives.

20 posted on 02/14/2022 7:51:14 AM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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