Vaccinated people are majority of COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in Australian state

LifeSite News ^ | Feb 2, 2022 | Raymond Wolfe

[dadfly]

there are three reasons to take an inoculation traditionally: these are all good reasons, scientifically proven over many years. and all assume the avoidance of infection. if you can’t avoid infection, there is zero reason to take an innoculation, all bs about lessening the fatality of the disease put aside. an infection is a failure of the innoculation. period.

one is to get the infection out of the way because you don’t want to get it later at an inopportune time.

thus at war, Washington innoculated his troops with the virus all at once to keep the infection (probably already spreading throughout the army) from being dragged out for weeks or months. this was critical to the success of the American Revolution and thus justified in Washington’s eyes. that the infection was going to hit the army was a given. and it was assumed that the army bivouacked would be the best situation to handle the infections instead of one in active battle and campaigning.

second, you get innoculated to avoid infection in an area where the disease is endemic. when you’re travelling. again the assumption is that you won’t be infected at an inopportune time when exposed and exposure is assumed to be 100% in the situation.

third, you work yourself with immuno-compromised, sick individuals, where if you get the infection, you will most likely spread it before you are aware you have it. here again the purpose is to avoid the infection in order not to spread it.

infection is defined as developing enough virus to shed it at a rate large enough to spread the infection at an R0 > 1. period. that’s the defintion. effective innoculation prevents that from happening. period. it doesn’t matter whether you’re symptomatic or not. although scientific experience and proves that when you’re first symptomatic (or just before), you are shedding by far the most virus or pathogen.

that’s it. there’s no other reason to get innoculated, no matter what lies you or faschi or the cdc/fda is spreading about the purpose of vaccination.

[Turbo Pig]

I have talked to 100+ People in my condo community,

Ooo, such a big sample, and such long term observation. Well, my concerns have been quelled, because another COVID apologist feels good about taking an experimental treatment. I'm gonna go get all four of the shots one needs to be considered "up to date".

[ronnie raygun]

THEY HAVE CREATED SUPER SPREADERS WHILE THE NARRATIVE IS THE EVIL UNVACCINATED

[21twelve]

I’m on the “neighborhood app” or whatever it is called (mostly sightings of coyotes).

But there was a post showing the “data” of how in my state the unvaccinated are dying in droves. “And this is documented data so I am not even going to open up the comments section”. That post stays up, and nobody can voice their disagreement.

A post about the Canadian truckers, and another post about a local Freedom Rally were shut down.

I suppose somebody is making money off that app. I guess I should get off of it. Mostly stupid stuff anyway.

[Gaffer]

From this one can conclude that the vax doesn’t do much to keep you out of the hospital, but it also does not increase your chance of getting hospitalized

Then what good is it? Especially when you also have to consider those less pervasive side effects that are cropping up?

[canuck_conservative]

showing the “data” of how in my state the unvaccinated are dying in droves

IF that were true, wouldn't we be bombarded by Big Media stories about that? Along with the accusatory "See? We warned you unvaccinated what would happen!" lectures?? (they love that)

instead, crickets >>> ergo, story must be bogus

[Gumdrop]

This is not surprising. Older folks have a much higher percentage of vaccinated people in their demographic. Second - it is apparent that the vaccines are not all that effective after a few months. Hence putting the two together, there will be more death among the vaccinates - because of age plus the poor performance of the vaccines.

[hoe_cake]

Are you talking about Nextdoor Neighbor? Yes, funny stuff written by folks who have nothing better to do. Out of San Francisco, so there’s one reason the information is censored.

[aquila48]

After analyzing the numbers a bit more, I want to revise my previous comment. The conclusion I come up with is that, based on the numbers given, the vax reduces your odds of getting hospitalized by about half. Perhaps more if we narrow the population to that most at risk. I tried to be totally impartial, just analyzed the data. Your feedback, comments, correction and/or criticism is welcome.

Here’s my analysis...

The vaccination rate for the population in question is 91%

And 87% of those who are hospitalized have been vaxed.

The unvaxed population is 9% of the whole (110-91). However the unvaxeds make up 13% of the people hospitalized - a significantlly bigger proportion (almost 50%) than the 9% of the population.

In other words, of 100 people hospitalized, 87 come from the 91% of the population that were vaxed and 13 come from the 9% of the population that were unvaxed. Which means you’re about 50% more likely to be hospitalized if you’re unvaxed. (13/9 vs 87/91)

So, for example, if that population size is 10000 people, and 100 go in the hospital, the probability of a vaxed person ending there is 87/9100, .95% whereas for the unvaxed he probability is 13/900 which is 1.44% or 1.44/.95 or 1.5 times greater (50% greater).

So if you believe these numbers, your odds of landing in a hospital is 50% greater if you’re unvaxed than vaxed.

So is it worth getting the vax if it reduces your chances of ending up in the hospital by about half?

I guess it’s all up to each one of us to decide. Given my age and health condition, I decided to get the jabs, but I’m also strongly against the mandate.

Just the facts.

[Sirius Lee]

So is it worth getting the vax if it reduces your chances of ending up in the hospital by about half?

For something that has a 99.7% survival rate? Eh. The analysis does not factor in the risk of adverse effects from the injection.

I guess it’s all up to each one of us to decide.

Except that it isn't so long as the government/corporate/dem governor axis of evil (fascists) are mandating the injections - SCOTUS be damned.

This isn't even about Covid anymore. It's about preparing the infrastructure with which to chip and track and control every labor unit on the planet.

[aquila48]

“For something that has a 99.7% survival rate? Eh.

For people in my age groups (70+) it’s more like 95%

“The analysis does not factor in the risk of adverse effects from the injection.”

And what is that?

Not trying to argue, just trying to get the best data available to make an informed decision, regardless of political side.

[entropy12]

Thank you for “just the facts”.
But facts are not popular here.

[entropy12]

You have to be a little nuts to suffer through covid symptoms and survive. It is unnecessary ordeal. I am triple vaxxed, done 75 restaurant visits, 4 caribbean cruises (5th next week), many hundreds of visits to grocery and hardware stores, and many other office visits, since the pandemic from China arrived. Have not even experienced sniffles, much less cough or fever.

I like my option. Although I don’t know if it is because of those nothing burger jabs or just natural health from daily gym exercise.

[fluorescence]

I found their data on severe cases at https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-surveillance-report-20220201.pdf

On page 8 there is the below table,

Table 6. Proportion of PCR confirmed cases with a severe outcome (ICU and/or death) amongst all cases, by age, time of infection, and vaccination status, NSW, 26 November 2021 to 15 January 2022

	3+ doses			2 doses			<2 doses			Relative reduction from 2 doses	Relative reduction from three doses
	% severe	Severe	Total	% severe	Severe	Total	% severe	Severe	Total
0-9							0.0%	13	41025
10-19	0.0%	0	179	0.0%	5	46447	0.0%	5	12461	73%
20-29	0.0%	1	3163	0.0%	18	114633	0.2%	6	2456	94%	87%
30-39	0.1%	2	2912	0.0%	19	73896	0.5%	10	1835	95%	87%
40-49	0.0%	1	3675	0.1%	29	53226	1.2%	12	1009	95%	98%
50-59	0.1%	2	3067	0.1%	39	43508	2.9%	16	552	97%	98%
60-69	0.3%	5	1947	0.3%	71	25041	5.9%	25	425	95%	96%
70-79	0.7%	9	1346	1.1%	120	10970	7.1%	23	324	85%	91%
80-89	1.0%	7	732	2.3%	94	4171	15.1%	26	172	85%	94%
90+	0.9%	3	329	4.1%	42	1020	13.4%	11	82	69%	93%
Total	0.2%	30	17350	0.1%	437	372912	0.2%	134	19316	83%	75%

0-9 are at such low risk that including them in the total takes the overall relative reduction down to 52% even though for every age group the reduction is around 9%. Dropping 10-19 as well would bring it up to to a 93% reduction overall for two doses.

People over 70 are clearly getting a lower relative benefit from two doses but the biggest absolute reduction, and with a third dose they have about a quarter as many severe cases, from 4x as many cases.

[Sirius Lee]

You have to be a little nuts to suffer through covid symptoms and survive.

A runny nose, a night of chills and a sore throat the next morning until around noon? Yeah, call me nutty because I survived that.

I like my option. Although I don’t know if it is because of those nothing burger jabs or just natural health from daily gym exercise.

If that works for you, congratulations. I like having opted for natural immunity and never stopped going to restaurants or bars or stores or mountains or lakes or my gym out in the barn.

[entropy12]

You are fortunate covid did not attack any vital organs.
Many others were not so fortunate. 600,000+ Americans died from it. Avoid getting covid is a better option.

[Sirius Lee]

You are fortunate covid did not attack any vital organs. Many others were not so fortunate. 600,000+ Americans died from it. Avoid getting covid is a better option.

You are fortunate the injection did not attack any vital organs. Many others were not so fortunate. 20,000+ Americans died from the shot. 700,000+ had adverse effects from it. Getting natural immunity is a better option.

[Allegra]

Getting natural immunity is a better option.

+1

[entropy12]

Stimulate your brain power. There is a good brain in your head. But you have to use it. Less than 0.02% of jabbed people have experienced serious adverse effects. That is better by orders of magnitude than getting admitted in any US hospital. Nothing is 100% safe in medical field. People have died from aspirin pills.
On the other hand a close family friend has serious permanent damage to her heart from covid at age 25 . Her biggest regret in life is not getting the jabs.

[Sirius Lee]

Less than 0.02% of jabbed people have experienced serious adverse effects.

Less than 0.02% of WuFlu infectees died from it prior to the injections.

On the other hand a close family friend has serious permanent damage to her heart from covid at age 25 . Her biggest regret in life is not getting the jabs.

I watched an injected woman (she was in line ahead of me and boasting about having just got it) collapse in the parking lot in front of me as her skin blotted up like a lizard and and go into full body spasms before she died, despite the efforts of the two local cops and an EMT that happened to be right there. (It's a popular lunch spot for cops, firefighters and first responders)

I did not get a chance to ask her what her biggest regret was.

What do you think it was? "I regret not being even more of an obedient sheep"? " I regret paying too little in taxes"? "I regret my white privilege"? "I regret not wearing three masks and a yellow star on my sleeve" ?