Rejecting results and refusing to certify them was absolutely within Pence’s authority when he certified the Electoral Votes.
But that does not OVERTURN the election, it puts it under a higher level of scrutiny in order to be certified.
Just another rant from a dedicated never Trumper.
He did.
Note that both the Democrats and Republicans are looking into writing a law to disallow that going forward.
If they need a law… it was legal.
(And, in fact, was attempted by Democrats in 2016 and 2004…. But don’t let the propaganda convince ya!)
He had the power to question some of the certifications. That is far different than overturning.
If, without Pence, the election could NOT have been certified, Trump’s assertion is true. How is it not?
“the 2020 election that Trump lost.”
If you’re carjacked you don’t report it as being lost, you report it as being stolen because that’s exactly what happened.
Trump neither said nor suggested tgat pence could overturn the election
Trump has not conceded loss in 2020.
Trump has been correct about almost everything. The media called him a liar, but history has proven him correct on the majority of the calls. Covid=Wuhan lab. HCQ and Ivermectin=trials demonstrate effective. Biden and Putin. Biden and the gas pipelines. Biden and mandates. BLM at the Democrats. Government traitors. Election manipulations. How to fix the economy. New trade deals. Biden a crook, and in on with his son. Biden and China. Pedophile problems. The drug trade and borders. The sex trade and borders. The plot to destroy him with fake dossier. The plot to show that he shuffled illegal money. The plot to say he did illegal tax stuff....
Need I go on.
Truth is, Trump was a mean tweeter. He also managed to pick some traitors people to work for him....and that is a character problem that I fear the most if he ever takes office again.
There was no legitimate election to overturn.
This issue will never be resolved. Some states were asking to send the votes back as they realized fraud and corruption. The Deep states overlords were just too much to overcome. Trump was in their way and they could not have him anymore. Trump won
Donald Trump may not be an authority on the Constitution, but he certainly can hire any number of such knowledgeable Constitutional authorities. And he has been known to take advice when he considers it to be sound.
The New York Daily News is not known to be even-handed in its approach to legal tangles. So they are building a straw man here, in the hopes of creating a spectacular blaze.
But the words of that law are pretty plain. The method of selection of the next President and Vice President is shifted from the Electoral College to the joint action of both Houses of Congress.
I have heard lawyers on both sides of this. I side with those who say that Pence’s authority was more limited. What is truly irresponsible is saying that Trump is responsible for violence simply by expressing an opinion shared by many lawyers and politicians.
any day now Trump will tell us he found the missing strawberries….
Yet another poster disseminating and pushing the leftist narratives.
Looken sharp sham_whiskey..
Decertification to initiate the investigation of glaring illegalities is NOT “overturning an election.”
Weak Pence - bump for later...
Hello All-
Just as a real estate title can have a “cloud” over it, preventing transfer of ownership until removed, many of the ‘Elector Certificates’ DID have an OBVIOUS cloud over them, hence the pertinent thread here today at FR.
Before accepting the Elector Certificates, Mike Pence SHOULD have gone to his US Secret Service detail’s Supervisor in the Chamber and TOLD the agent that under no circumstance does he want the Clerk approaching him with the Elector Certificates. Further Mike Pence SHOULD have informed the Supervisor that he (Mike Pence) was resigning his position as Vice President of the United States, effective IMMEDIATELY. Then Mike Pence SHOULD have resumed his position in the Chamber and resigned forthwith, leaving the building at once then proceeding to Andrews Air Force Base for a flight to a destination unknown.
THIS was the Constitutional step Mike Pence COULD have taken and he would have been well within his right to do so.
What would happen after that is open for debate, but one thing is for certain, Joe Biden would not have been certified as the next President of the United States of America.
Trump speaks in hyperbole and shortens the message so it can be explained quickly, without all the disclaimers. That is why he is an effective communicator. Pence had the power to send the dispute over electors back to the states that wanted a little more time. If the dispute was back in the states, the election would have had a CHANCE of being overturned. Thus, Pence had the power to START the process of decertification and an overturn the election. All of this is uncharted territory in our system.