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Giuliani led fake electors plot: CNN
The Hill / CNN ^ | 01/21/22 04:16 PM EST | BY LEXI LONAS

Posted on 01/23/2022 10:43:23 AM PST by RandFan

Former President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani led a plot to create fake electors during the 2020 presidential election in an attempt to keep Trump in charge, three people with knowledge of the plan told CNN.

The former president’s lawyer led the charge in seven key states that Trump lost by working with allies at the state-level so fake certificates could be sent to the National Archives, according to CNN’s sources.

In a recording obtained by CNN, Meshawn Maddock, co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, who was also a fake elector, said at an event that the Trump campaign asked Michigan to seat electors.

"We fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that,” she said.

Other states that were involved in the scheme include Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico.

Sam DeMarco, one of the Trump electors in Pennsylvania, told the outlet that electors in the state urged Trump officials to add a caveat to the fake certificates saying they were only electors if Trump won the election after his court challenges. New Mexico added a similar caveat.

All the other states did not add that legal caveat as many were convinced of the false claim that Trump won the 2020 election.

Another source told CNN the Trump campaign got rooms in statehouses and recruited pro-Trump electors to meet about sending the certificates in December.

"It was Rudy and these misfit characters who started calling the shots," a former Trump campaign staffer told the outlet. "The campaign was throwing enough sh-t at the wall to see what would stick."

On the day the electoral votes were certified, a source familiar with the issue said former Vice President Mike Pence’s team carefully worded his speech to exclude the fake electors as Pence was concerned about the issue.

The CNN report comes days after the Jan. 6 House committee issued a subpoena against Giuliani for his alleged involvement in the fake elector scheme.

“You actively promoted claims of election fraud on behalf of former President Trump and sought to convince state legislators to take steps to overturn the election results,” the committee said in the subpoena.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakej6committeeplot; fakelectorsplot; thegunpowderplot; thej6committeeplot
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I love a good "plot". Thanks CNN!
1 posted on 01/23/2022 10:43:23 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

They always accuse you of what they are doing.

Alinsky 101.


2 posted on 01/23/2022 10:44:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: RandFan

Alternative, not fake.


3 posted on 01/23/2022 10:47:00 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: RandFan

In 2016, didn’t the left make a push to get electors to switch from Trump to Clinton?


4 posted on 01/23/2022 10:47:35 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: eclectic

Not alternative.

The real electors, not the phony ones put up by Democrat fake ballots.


5 posted on 01/23/2022 10:50:33 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: RandFan

This is it. Trump’s gonna be perp-walked by Mueller now.


6 posted on 01/23/2022 10:51:13 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: RandFan

“You actively promoted claims of election fraud on behalf of former President Trump and sought to convince state legislators to take steps to overturn the election results,”

So now, claims of election fraud and attempts to overturn
fraudulent elections are some kind of crime in themselves?


7 posted on 01/23/2022 10:54:08 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: eclectic

And you’ve used the legally correct word “alternative” slates. So let me get this straight: there was this “plot” to send “fake” slates so that… what? Congress would be fooled into thinking that fake certificates were the real ones? Mind you, this level of inanity sells quite well with CNN’s core viewers. Those would be the same folks who show up in the polls as strongly approving of Biden’s job performance


8 posted on 01/23/2022 10:55:39 AM PST by j.havenfarm (21 years on Free Republic, 12/10/21! More than 5000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: RandFan

According to Patrick Byrne, Giuliani was too drunk to do anything.


9 posted on 01/23/2022 10:57:34 AM PST by Luke21
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To: tet68
So now, claims of election fraud and attempts to overturn fraudulent elections are some kind of crime in themselves?

It depends on who wins.

10 posted on 01/23/2022 11:01:12 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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So now, claims of election fraud and attempts to overturn fraudulent elections are some kind of crime in themselves?

It depends on who wins.

With a general nod in the diection of Joe Stalin.

11 posted on 01/23/2022 11:05:55 AM PST by thecodont
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"So now, claims of election fraud and attempts to overturn fraudulent elections are some kind of crime in themselves?"

By CNN's description, Gore should have been sent to jail for cherry-picking only Democrat-controlled counties for recount in 2000, in order to overturn the election.

12 posted on 01/23/2022 11:08:16 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: RandFan

13 posted on 01/23/2022 11:11:25 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: RandFan

There CNN goes again, threatening our democracy with their conspiracy theory lies.


14 posted on 01/23/2022 11:11:46 AM PST by skeeter
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RE: According to Patrick Byrne, Giuliani was too drunk to do anything.

How credible is this Patrick Byrne fella? What’s his track record?


15 posted on 01/23/2022 11:13:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RandFan

“Conspiracy theory”


16 posted on 01/23/2022 11:13:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Steve_Seattle

They sure did... The DNC were not only calling the election of Trump illegitimate and demanding states not certify the counts and award the republican delegate slate to be the legislature electoral vote proxy, but began an advertising campaign using celebrities designed to intimidating and appeal to republican electors into switching their votes to Hillary.

The Democrats are projecting as they always do. The Democrats live in a continuous psychosis of holding power. They can’t fathom or accept the reality that they will lose elections. They believe it’s not possible to lose to republicans! Democrats are stuck on stupid and live in their deranged Utopian world... a world without opposition or Republicans. They actually feel they are endowed rulers that can never be challenged and replaced!

Wen a Democrat looses an election, they claim it’s because the Republicans cheated! LOL!

Democrats are not adults. They behave EXACTLY like petulant, spoiled children. No one can take their power! They will burn the house down and take everyone with them if they feel threatened!

Democrats don’t win elections... they steal them by fraud, cheating and cooking the votes.

Democrats are the scourge of evil and feed off of everything that rots in this country.


17 posted on 01/23/2022 11:17:12 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: Regulator
Not alternative. The real electors

If they were not appointed by the Michigan Legislature, they were fake.

18 posted on 01/23/2022 11:19:15 AM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: RandFan

This makes me wonder why the Al Jazeera network was allowed to fail on American cable TV, but not CNN. Hopefully they’ll still be bashing Trump a hundred years from now, and not doing much else besides that.


19 posted on 01/23/2022 11:21:17 AM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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Mind you, this level of inanity sells quite well with CNN’s core viewers

All 50 of them.

20 posted on 01/23/2022 11:22:46 AM PST by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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