The Electric Vehicle Scam

Americaoutloud ^ | Jan 15, 2022 | | Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris |

[Hojczyk]

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?

ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

[SPDSHDW]

they will in 2035. in CA by law/mandate/whatever the Dem’s want.

[setter]

See my post #160.

The milk you put on your cereal this morning is subsidized by the US gov’t.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Thanks for saving me a search. BTW those lithium battery replacement cost are based on today’s prices. I don’t see the cost coming down in the future.

[roadcat]

And vehicles have a device called a door lock that prevents them from being stolen..........How well does that work?

Failing to see the point. A friend of mine with a convertible car told me he never locks his doors because thieves won't cut his ragtop to gain entry. Well, thieves cut his ragtop in order to steal from his car, even though the doors were not locked. Idiots abound everywhere, and idiots always ruin things despite efforts to stop them. Plenty of them at gas stations (I worked at gas stations in my youth and encountered idiots daily.)

[Keyhopper]

Worked for the water department for awhile.
They gave out (free) water saving devices for toilets, showers, and faucet’s. Then when everyone started using them the revenue slowed down. How did the city fix this? That’s right, the jacked up the water rates.
So, you use less water, but still pay the same.

[T.B. Yoits]

3. Pull into an EV service station, and the automated machine swaps out your low charge modules for freshly charged ones.

5. The automated system charges your removed modules in a rack, performs a wellness check and prepares it and other in inventory for the next vehicle in line.

This has been shown to work in Israel and Japan.

In other words, magic systems that never fail in countries with controlled societies.

Disneyland, Keeblerville, NeverNeverLand, and the parking lots of Apple, Google, and Facebook.

[BiteYourSelf]

Define not long ago.🤔

[BiteYourSelf]

More beer.😋

[EVO X]

Here’s something those who have EVgasms never bring up, human nature. Next few times at a gas station, look at the nozzles and notice how much damage they’ve taken over the years. In a perfect world those nozzles should look nearly new but there are plenty of incompetent drivers out there. I’ve came up to pumps where the nozzle was so worn and dinged I went to another pump.

You do raise an interesting point of connector fatigue. If it happens on your car, you likely have an expensive repair. If it happens on the charging station, you drive off unless it yours. That said, I'haven't heard of this being an issue.

[rollo tomasi]

EV should be relegated (Forget forced/ regulated by the Fed's on high) as a niche product. Tried that pipe-dream in the 20’s, not practical still. Not everyone lives in a house, coal industry is being decimated, nuke plants.... lol, with environmental weenies ingrained in the public regulation industry.
Its solar and windmills, good luck with that.
Perfect storm of impractical square peg in a circle combined with punishing what works should lead to some sort of revolution, btw, against corporate and government perverted marriage that is a wicked match against individualism.

[dinodino]

Your friend sounds like an idiot. Tesla’s onboard computer automatically calculates the optimal locations and charging times for superchargers during a trip. As for non-Tesla networks, there are several of those, and apps exist to do the same thing, although the apps run on your phone instead of your car, AFAIK.

[dinodino]

Good luck with that. This forum is primarily populate by seniors who are afraid of any automotive technology more modern than a Dodge Slant 6...

[dinodino]

*populated

[Yogafist]

Of course the government is financially involved in new technology, it is important they stay at the forefront of technology for national safety reasons if nothing else. But I don’t recall the government paying me, or shaming me with fantastical stories of the world ending if I didn’t get rid of my landline and buy a cellphone, which at that time could be used in a few areas of major cities.

[setter]

“Take your socialist crap somewhere else”

Im socialist by pointing out nearly every us industry is being subisidized by the US gov’t which is 100% true.

If the US govt did not subsidize industry we would lose our technological innovation and other countries would run over us in new advances.

Look up ag subsidies which run in the hundreds of billions each year. Look up what we give to the oil and gas companies.
Every country in the world subsidize their industries..most way more than we do.

[BiteYourSelf]

72 hours for a fully charged battery.
One you don’t charge EV batteries all the way up too often or you can damage them.
Two if you have been driving your battery will have been partially depleted.
Three if you run down your battery keeping warm your EV will have to be hauled out on a flatbed.

[setter]

This forum is primarily populate by seniors who are afraid of any automotive technology more modern than a Dodge Slant 6...

This sums it up in a nutshell.

[BiteYourSelf]

If you idiot proof something the universe will create a bigger idiot.🙄

[catnipman]

my favorite drawback to EVs is when major catastrophes suddenly strike and tens or hundreds of thousands need to immediately evacuate, all pretty much in the same direction and the same time, causing immediate gridlock ... a chain reaction of dead batteries ensues, with no possible cure, and soon tens or hundreds of thousands of dead EVs are pretty much permanently stalled, with no chance of being removed for several weeks ... in the mean time, their passengers are doomed as the catastrophe catches up with them and they run out of water, food and either heat or cooling, and no way to be removed from the stall-zone ...

[Eleutheria5]

What if nobody wants to buy an EV. Sure, it’s a big thing right now for people who can afford it. But not everyone can afford it. And if charging them is such a hassle, even those who can afford it won’t want one anymore. Oh, well.