Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.
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I’ve already booked my trip to Mars. Just waiting for the technology to catch up. But one it does, I’ll be a serious land owner down there.
No matter how you look at it, the problem is batteries, they just are not efficient enough.
Pound for pound, 1/1000th the energy of Gasoline.
After many decades, just when technology got ICE vehicles to run super clean, the leftist/Communist want to ban them all and force everyone into EV’s.
This is total insanity.
absolutely and free gas powered generator with every purchase
“In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours”
Down here the only stations that are busy are Costco and Sam’s Club.
The rest are not filling stations but minimarts.
I won’t. How many of the would I have to bridle together to pull my 16k lb. 5th wheel?
My F350 turbo diesel can do it on it’s own.
A local superduper market installed a charging station about 6 months ago. I have yet to see anyone using it.
Electric vehicles are a Chinese communist scam!!!!
(The materials for those batteries come from China!)
If it takes an hour to charge an EV at 50KW then it would take 167 chargers to do 2000 in 12 hours. So that's 8.3 Mw not 30.
This guy's math is all screwed up.
“Oh...and the TAXPAYERS are paying for the construction of those charging stations!”
Some. But free markets are putting them in and paying for them. Station casino in Las Vegas put in 30 chargers and is charging cars for FREE to attract customers to their casinos. A mall in Cleveland did the same thing. Free charging while you shop.
When batteries can do that we’ll be using ray guns instead of guns with bullets. And ray guns don’t cause global warming.
Recharging at residential electricity rates. Something I don't think the electric utility hasn't noticed.
“Electric vehicles are a Chinese communist scam!!!!(The materials for those batteries come from China!)”
All the car companies are going to lithium free solid state batteries made right here in the USA and 100% recyklable
Stellantis, Mercedes-Benz invest in solid-state battery developer Factorial Energy | TechCrunch
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greggardner/2021/10/28/hyundai-kia-partner-with-factorial-energy-on-solid-state-battery-tech/
Solid-State EV Battery Plot Thickens As GM Inks Deal with POSCO (cleantechnica.com)
BMW and Ford Invest in Solid-State Battery Startup for Future EVs (caranddriver.com)
BTTT
The EV model can be fixed by adopting what is experimental today:
1. Standardize battery modules between manufacturers.
2. Shift to easily replaceable batteries.
3. Pull into an EV service station, and the automated machine swaps out your low charge modules for freshly charged ones.
4. Off you go in 5 minutes.
5. The automated system charges your removed modules in a rack, performs a wellness check and prepares it and other in inventory for the next vehicle in line.
6. Your little sedan might only need one module and the full size van might get 3 swapped.
7. Your vehicle is cheaper to buy because you don’t have to buy the battery(s) but your cost per kilowatt does go up since your are participating in a system that did buy the batteries and maintains them.
This also works well for semis and work vehicles that cannot afford to be down for charges multiple times per work day.
This has been shown to work in Israel and Japan.
Porting the existing service station model over to EVs is silly, and I say this as a happy and pleased EV owner.
Also the charge at night at home model works fine for us since we own our home and the EV pulls in the garage at night, and gets plugged in. Multi family housing??? Um, rethink this ...
Duh. I brought this up 10 years ago. Further evidence that few people can see past their driveway, much less THINK.
Yes it works fine as long as there aren’t too many EVs out there.
FREE. I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Yup. Too bad too many think like that.
It seems like yesterday when Oprah was talking about saving the planet by merely replacing old light bubs with the squigglies - to save electricity.
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