Posted on 01/10/2022 9:54:27 PM PST by Paul R.
Authorities have released body camera footage from a deadly shooting involving a Canton police officer that took place early Saturday morning.
The footage begins with an officer outside of a home in the 2300 block of 10th Street Southwest shortly after midnight. He can be heard relaying information about his location when rapid gunshots ring out from a fenced-in area nearby.
“The officer, who was outside of his vehicle, confronted a subject that began shooting a firearm,” Canton police said in a press release that was issued Saturday. “The officer, in fear for his safety, fired his duty weapon at the subject and struck him.”
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All I can say is "Holy disproportionate and irresponsible response!" (Watch the vid carefully, please.)
Anyone with a screen over 5" wide can EASILY see that the deceased was firing almost straight up. Just after midnight on New Years Eve. There was NO threat to the officer, and minimal threat to the public. HUNDREDS of people do the same on New Years Eve in any good size US city (to say nothing of rural folks.) It's "possible" a round could come down at as much as 300 fps and injure someone, but, the threat is tiny - probably less than the odds of getting snakebit on a hike in the woods, or the odds of me injuring someone when I'm on the way to the grocery, fully alert and following every driving regulation in the book.
WORSE, this officer shot through a nearly opaque fence and there EASILY could have been multiple people unseen on the other side or downrange.
Nor is the officer's fear for his safety a reasonable defense, IMO. He runs up toward the fence and commences firing, again, CLEARLY while the soon-to-be-deceased is firing almost vertically.
Then there is the PD's malarkey about "confronting a subject". Righto. (Dig your hole deeper, guys!)
In at least 9 out of 10 of these cases, the police are in the right. Not this time. This family is going to walk away set for life (justifiably) at taxpayer expense (unfortunately.)
“It’s “possible” a round could come down at as much as 300 fps and injure someone, but, the threat is tiny...”
HELLA LOT less “tiny “in suburbia, and it’s not just people, but property — rooftops of buildings, peoples’ cars, their pets, etc — that are put in jeopardy by such damned fool behavior.
I’m not happy about this situation, here, but shooting rounds into the sky — unless you’re in the freakin’ boonies, or shooting skeet out over an open field — there’s just no excuse. I’d flat knock somebody un-effin-conscious before I’d let ‘em keep on with that crap.
Note the time signature...01/01/2022. 00.07.11....New Years Eve celebratory gunfire.
I will disagree......
Who called the police? Obvious somebody saw a threat for the police to show up.
Further idiots that fire off guns to celebrate is thuggery and downright stupid. You’re asking for trouble.
In the alley way net to my apartment a few years back there were guns being fired in the street...I called the police who got there in record time. I wasn’t going to wait around and see if somebody was just “Playing with guns”.....further the police could hear the gun shots during the call.
Ended up a family fight from two families who had just moved in.....long story short....they were evicted.
I agree with your assessment.
James Williams' wife Marquetta said she joined her husband and other relatives in firing the rifle as did other neighbors. She and the others went back inside while her husband stayed to shoot the rifle more.
That was a bad shoot. Right at midnight on new years eve, the cop was amazed to hear shots fired into the air? Then a wood fence where he could not see who was on the other side, he just started shooting through the fence.
Then he acted like he broke up a band of Al Qeida frogmen plotting an attack.
That was one where the totality of the circumstances should have told him exactly what it was. Patrolling neighborhoods at midnight and engaging in the blind anyone firing a few shots into the air. Sheesh...
The risk is minuscule when fired straight up like that. The NRA put out a book of US Army tests during WWII on dozens of things like that. Over 90% of bullets tumble at the top and fall back to earth like a small pebble, slowly tumbling their way down. A rare few keep their spin and come back base first with some relative stability.
The main danger is firing at 45 degrees or less, then they return to earth at nearly the same velocity as they were fired with.
Cool book with lots of experiments the Army did.
Another one is how deep do you have to dive to be safe from a strafing plane’s 30 cal and 50 cal. About 3 feet is sufficient unless the plane is literally diving at 90 degrees.
New years eve get retarded, but getting hit is about the odds of winning a lotto ticket.
I have to say police probably see way more violence than most, not a great job when u are trying just to get home for the day.
They are more trained than me, and if it was me, well getting shot at would bring amageton in response with holes in everything for miles around!
Stupidity and idiots on display then.
I have never heard anyone shoot into the air for New Years or any other holiday. Only in alasnackbar movies. Ammo is precious, Hubby fired off a high powered air gun that sounded like a 22 in the city. Is this what people do when the nanny state won’t let them have cherry bombs?
How do we know the guy was not firing blanks into the air?
You probably wouldn't know the difference between a high powder firework or a firearm fired off in the far distance. With that being said, it happens all the time, especially on the fourth of July.
At the plant I worked at in Detroit we would occasionally find a bullet lying in the plant driveway that had been fired off in the previous night's celebration.
I agree. It is something that some cultures do though, mostly considered an old world tradition.
Like here you get people banging on pots and pans outside, church bells ringing, and fireworks for a few minutes.
Canton has had a lot of trouble recently with gunfire. Does not excuse either party here, but just a bit of information that supplements the information.
This was from nearly 10 years ago. Oddly enough it is from the Canton Repository. To those who think Canton is suburban, it is actually quite rural for the most part.
Gunfire in Canton is rampant, illegal with exception, potentially ...https://www.cantonrep.com › story › news › 2022/01/09
19 hours ago — In 2011, a 15-year-old Amish girl from Holmes County was killed after she was hit in the scalp by a descending bullet while driving a horse- ...
In this case, the location here is quite urban. Homes about 12 feet apart on small lots. This occurred directly behind a large hospital (Aultman).
Only morons “gun salute”.
The weapon cycled.
That actually makes sense, ‘cuz physics.
Muzzle velocity is expended going up, but gravity is the only acting down vector on the return trip, and bullet aerodynamics (or lack thereof) versus the atmosphere invokes a Terminal Velocity limit on the projectile that it cannot exceed.
A tumbling round would have that Terminal Velocity further reduced.
So, yeah, it’d be about like getting smacked with a modestly-sized hailstone. Not pleasant, but unlikely to zonk ya out.
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