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Dow drops nearly 400 points in first loss of 2022, as traders brace for a more aggressive Fed
CNBC ^ | January 5, 2021 | Tanaya Macheel

Posted on 01/05/2022 2:26:11 PM PST by John W

Stocks fell sharply Wednesday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average suffering its first decline of 2022, as Wall Street geared up for potentially tighter U.S. monetary policy.

Rates also jumped, putting pressure on equities, after the minutes from the Federal Reserve’s most recent meeting showed the central bank has discussed reducing its balance sheet shortly after it raises rates later this year.

The Fed is tapering its bond purchases now and has already indicated to the market that it will raise rates soon after it finishes that taper in March. But the market is awaiting indications from the Fed on what it will do with its nearly $9 trillion balance sheet once it’s done increasing it. The minutes show officials to be considering shrinking the balance sheet along with raising rates as another way to remove policy accommodation.

“Almost all participants agreed that it would likely be appropriate to initiate balance sheet runoff at some point after the first increase in the target range for the federal funds rate,” the meeting summary stated.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dow; fed; stockmarket
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1 posted on 01/05/2022 2:26:11 PM PST by John W
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BRANDON!
2 posted on 01/05/2022 2:35:55 PM PST by DAC21
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To: John W

Imagining actually doing something that would help. I remember when the nation suffered through the Volker medicine. When Volker raised the rates I believe the deficit was less than $1T. What’s the next option?


3 posted on 01/05/2022 2:40:21 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: John W
The r and d money printing has been amazing for stocks. Not so much for the debt. Rip gen x, y, z etc.


4 posted on 01/05/2022 2:40:54 PM PST by Theoria
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To: John W

Last year was great. Predictions for this year are modest but no one knows, it depends on what one invests in. The deciding factors for this year aren’t easily predictable.

After the last two years I’d be fine with hanging flat and take the dividends.

Today the Markets reacted to a perception of slightly tougher FED talk, common.


5 posted on 01/05/2022 2:43:17 PM PST by SaxxonWoods
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Historically it takes 3 or 4 rate hikes to have a REAL effect on the money supply. It seems the new buzzword for this year is inflation. Well, DUH. But don’t worry, this problem that has been 10-15 years in the making will be laid directly on Trumps doorstep, so it’s OK. In fact, once that lie has been firmly implanted, the worse it gets the better. Feel better now? Hold on to your butts, people trying to get in there.


6 posted on 01/05/2022 2:56:12 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: John W

“Almost all participants agreed that it would likely be appropriate to initiate balance sheet runoff at some point after the first increase in the target range for the federal funds rate,” the meeting summary stated.


Can anyone translate this from the bureaucratese ?


7 posted on 01/05/2022 2:59:39 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Here’s how I see it:

1. U.S. Treasury bills are being sold at or near historically low interest rates.

2. Anyone who is buying 10-year Treasury bills today is getting paid an annual rate of about 1.7% … at a time when the inflation rate is bein on reported around 6% to 8% and is more likely around 10% to 12%.

3. Nobody in their right mind would do such a thing, except the U.S. Federal Reserve … which is buying up these Treasury bills to delude Americans into thinking we can run up $30 trillion in Federal debt without paying a price for it.

4. This can’t go on forever.

8 posted on 01/05/2022 3:11:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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4. This can’t go on forever.

Unfortunately, I think they will run this game until we approach Venezuela Status, then they will blame it on Capitalism.
9 posted on 01/05/2022 3:23:35 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Alberta's Child

Real Estate is still doing crazy stuff in my area of Florida. Average suburban houses that were $250k-$350k at the height of the 2008 RE bubble are now $350k-$500k here.

Rolex watches are impossible to buy new at sticker price and are selling for thousands above retail on the grey market.

When this economic bubble bursts it will almost certainly be worse than 2008 due to the treasury debt that is super charging the economy.


10 posted on 01/05/2022 3:29:49 PM PST by lodi90
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Real estate in North Idaho is going through the roof because idiot libs from CA are lining up for houses and the opportunity to vote Dem in a red state.


11 posted on 01/05/2022 3:36:57 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness offends me)
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To: DAC21

Buy the f**king dip!


12 posted on 01/05/2022 3:39:52 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: John W

Estimated tax payments are due 1/15. Proceeds clear friday, cash transfer to checking Monday, good funds on Tuesday, mail to irs


13 posted on 01/05/2022 3:42:37 PM PST by Raycpa
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14 posted on 01/05/2022 3:44:08 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Raycpa

Rinse and repeat.


15 posted on 01/05/2022 3:44:42 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Theoria

My M-in-law was looking very prosperous maxxing out her credit cards. The pain started later when she could not make even minimum payments on all her cards.

As the national debt climbs, the interest due also climbs. If interest rates go much higher, it will be disaster. It has been relatively easy to pay off the interest on debt due to artificially low interest rates.


16 posted on 01/05/2022 3:49:22 PM PST by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: billorites

I missed dip today,hoping tomorrow continues dip so I can do dance too, Keeping some on sidelines for seasonal cash needs and/ or correction if lucky.


17 posted on 01/05/2022 3:50:26 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Did you have to ruin my day? I need to send a check on April 15th which could buy 2 Tesla cars. May be I will sell my wife. Never mind, that will not cover the gas to bring the car home.


18 posted on 01/05/2022 3:51:45 PM PST by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: Raycpa
If you only open your brokerage statement 1X/year you wouldn't notice any of this nonsense price action.

Thank heavens we're so disciplined as to not take a peak any more often.

19 posted on 01/05/2022 3:54:26 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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I was going to complain that the article was missinf the most important piece of infromation. I went to the source article to see that the poster ommitted the second paragraph.

The blue-chip Dow Jones Industrial Average ended the day down 392.54 points, or 1.07%, at 36,407.11. The 30-stock average hit an intraday record earlier in the session. The S&P 500 fell 1.94% to 4,700.58. The tech-heavy Nasdaq saw its biggest one-day loss since February, losing 3.34% to end at 15,100.17.

So the market went down 1% after hitting an intraday record.

10 years ago, on January 1, 2012 the market started at 12,860. 392 points off of that would have been 3% loss.

1% is background noise.


20 posted on 01/05/2022 3:55:27 PM PST by Steven Scharf
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