Insurance CEO says deaths up 40% among working age people, and it's not just COVID

Just the News ^ | Jan 1, 2022 at 11:22PM | Margaret Menge

[Texas Fossil]

The head of OneAmerica insurance said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers in the state.

Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.

“And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”

[Safrguns]

>>> Funny how they’re not saying what these people are dying from, just that they died. 🤔

All we need is a decent graph of ALL deaths correlated to previous years.

What we should see due to Covid is a spike followed by a decline ***** IF ***** the vaccines are as effective as they say.

If instead we see a sharp spike with NO decline beginning with the vaccine rollouts (1 yr later than covid), then the correlation is obvious.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Surely they understand these deaths are related to the vaccine shots. That means they are paying out and they do not like it. Insurance companies would be the first to know the real truth on this mess.

[Captain Peter Blood]

He said there was a 40% increase in deaths not that 40% died.

[fr_freak]

I personally no longer trust the medical professionals? and their hospitals

I don't either, but my distrust precedes this COVID nonsense. The problem with the modern medical profession seems to be not a deliberate maliciousness, but the top-down hive mind structure where doctors are now just worker drones who blindly believe every memo sent down from higher up.

Doctors are trained to memorize and obey in med school, and have that mindless obedience reinforced by licensing boards and hospital admins, all while being told that if they just believe and do as they're told, they shall be as gods.

[Honest Nigerian]

Good point!
The money quote is “40% increase” in death rate.
And 12 Sigma is just another way of showing how EXTREME the deviation is!!

[BipolarBob]

The scenarios can be worlds apart. Some people just want to get high regardless of the consequences. They are almost hopeless and helpless. I discount then immediately. I have no solution that would be acceptable to the authorities. Meth, heroin, fentanyl has taken over their bodies and soul.
I am more concerned about people with chronic pain who have no choice because the government continually restricts and barricades their means of compassionate relief. They need some medical relief without federal interference.
The legalization of pot doesn't matter to me, one way or the other. The criminal element my follow it because of the opportunity to make money. That's capitalism.

[Steve_Seattle]

"From one company-OAN, not all."

In the article, the CEO said the 40% increase was industry wide.

[BipolarBob]

He said there was a 40% increase in deaths not that 40% died.

You've been reading for comprehension again, haven't you? That's not fair because you're using his words literally and verbatim instead of how he meant it.

/s

[Sequoyah101]

Many times people only go out of their way to plot things on a logarithmic scale to hide something or make something insignificant look different.

Notwithstanding that there are some statistical reasons to do so but in this case?

If you plot the data on a linear scale I think you see that old people normally die and younger people don’t.

If you look at the change of death rate something else shows up. I’ll leave it to you to make your own conclusions on that:

% change from 2019 to 2020

85+ 14.98%
75+ 15.99%
65+ 17.44%
55+ 17.62%
45+ 20.67%
35+ 24.90%
25+ 23.84%
15+ 20.80%
5+ 2.24%
1+ -2.58%

I wonder what the numbers will show for 2021 if they don’t manipulate them?

[philman_36]

Well pardon me for not being precise enough for your satisfaction.

[Sequoyah101]

Uncovered death by suicide?

[Steve_Seattle]

According to your chart, deaths in 2020, pre-Covid-vaccine, increased an average of 15% in the five oldest age groups, about 20% in the next three groups, and hardly at all in the two youngest groups. So overall death rates in the Year of Covid increased about 15-17%.

This CEO claims an increase of more than TWICE that rate compared to pre-Covid levels in the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2021 despite widespread vaccination and despite an extra year to work on therapeutics. Something is wrong.

[Captain Walker]

Just like traffic safety analysis, the truth comes out as an actuarial. The insurance providers always know.

An insurance company paying a claim will be able to see a death certificate (and a cause of death).

But they can only see the death cert; drawing a connection from a death to a cause is simply beyond the purview of an insurance company.

[philman_36]

Well pardon me for not being precise enough for your satisfaction.

[D Rider]

Absolutely. But they will be able to tell if deaths go up or down in regions with higher Vax rates. That is another reason to rush the mandates. It wil cover the evidence.

[philman_36]

But I now find its a competition.
That's your assumption, not mine.

[Sequoyah101]

I think or suggest that a lot of their collaborative capability is based on banked relationships. I have run virtual teams before and found it necessary to insert face time with a group meeting at least every month and preferably every two weeks to present progress to one another and hammer things out but just as importantly to have relationship time and a couple of meals together off site. These were good investments to me.

I have also worked remote from my cohort in the days of just a telephone. It required an immense investment in time for explanation and relationship building. It also cemented my inclination to give instructions and ask what the receiver understands and not simply if he understands what he has been told. The follow-up military type memo by fax was also beneficial.

Time will tell what is right but I’m out of it now. It is simply a curiosity to me that I no longer have bearing on. Whatever they do in terms of productivity will be an imposed cost or benefit to me that I will have to adjust for.

[miserare]

These are stunning statistics.

I wonder how much the vaccines play into this scenario.

More deaths than in a once-in-a 200 year catastrophe!

[Steve_Seattle]

"40% MORE of their policy holders in that age group, not 40% of the age group."

That's a legitimate point, but I would expect the rate for non-policy holders to be higher. Why? Because these are group policies for employed workers or people who retired and stayed on the company policy. I would think they would be likely to enjoy better health than uninsured or unemployed people. (If a company offers life insurance, it usually offers a health benefit.) Even if this isn't true, why would the uninsured and/or unemployed have a LOWER death rate?

[miserare]

Good rant.

I was thinking along those lines, too. The total lack of religion, of faith and hope, of purposeful life. This plays into it.