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Pennsylvania’s Constitutional Carry Law is Common Sense
Newsweek ^ | 12/07/2021 | Dr. John Lott and the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Leader Kim Ward

Posted on 12/07/2021 1:51:53 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a

The same predictions of doom and bloodshed keep coming from gun-control activists. They warn us of pending disaster should Pennsylvania become the 22nd state to adopt so-called constitutional carry rules that would allow law-abiding adults who legally own a handgun to conceal-carry it without a permit. Thirty-four states, including Pennsylvania, already allow open carry without a permit.

With the U.S. Supreme Court set to decide how the Second Amendment applies to people's ability to defend themselves outside the home, the debate in states like Pennsylvania matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitutionalcarry; guns; johnlott
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1 posted on 12/07/2021 1:51:53 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Newsweek?????Seriously???


2 posted on 12/07/2021 1:58:04 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Lol. Liberals seldom have anything to do with common sense.


3 posted on 12/07/2021 1:58:16 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
With the U.S. Supreme Court set to decide how the Second Amendment applies to people's ability to defend themselves outside the home

The 2nd Amendment places no restriction on where a person shall be able to defend themselves. "Shall not be infringed" is not hard to understand.

4 posted on 12/07/2021 2:05:55 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

I don’t pretend to know a lot about guns. We have them, I go to the range with hubby now and then, of course we support 2A, etc. One thing I’ve never understood is conceal vs open carry. Maybe I’m missing something, but it seems to make much more sense (and safer?) to have open carry- no “surprises”. For women, especially.


5 posted on 12/07/2021 2:06:11 PM PST by workerbee (==)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
The bill leaves much unchanged. Businesses and private property owners still have the right to exclude handguns. Prohibitions on carrying in sensitive places and regarding the misuse of guns are unchanged. Pennsylvanians are still required to pass a background check to buy a handgun.

So then it's really a "sort of Constitutional carry" bill.

6 posted on 12/07/2021 2:07:24 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Unfortunately, Tommie the Commie Wolf has no commonsense. It will be vetoed.


7 posted on 12/07/2021 2:10:55 PM PST by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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To: workerbee

The surprise factor is a big benefit.

Concealed, you can walk into stores and eateries and not get told “get out, we don’t like guns here.

When there are lots of CCWs, robbers have to worry more, more uncertainty.

With open carry,you have to worry that some thug who wants a gun will come up behind you, bash you over the head, and take yours.


8 posted on 12/07/2021 2:12:17 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: workerbee

Disagree - makes for a more polite society if one just assumes everybody else is armed. They don’t need to see what you may have.


9 posted on 12/07/2021 2:14:20 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

If you read the newspapers,diaries and archives about the 49`ers from the east coast traveling to California, you will find out that they were ALLL PACKIN HEAT. They never heard of S0-called “Constitutional Carry” term because it was COMMON PRACTICE to carry a side arm EVERYWHERE. DUUHHHHH ...what morons there are in the Supreme Court and the State courts do not even the precedents of the Second Amendment and do not even know their own history of their ancestors. Idiots!


10 posted on 12/07/2021 2:21:02 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It was NYC.)
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To: DoodleDawg
So then it's really a "sort of Constitutional carry" bill.

Yeah, sort of, you buy a handgun and you have a background check. I assume the bill doesn't require a background check to carry, as the current permit to carry license is today. There wouldn't be any point if it did. But you did pass a background check when you purchased your weapon. I suppose you "borrow" and carry w/o a background check.

I am all for zero background checks for everyone and carry weapon however, whenever and wherever you like. The only people who can't possess a weapon have been convicted of a crime and are presently in prison. Criminals who pay their debt to society get a free slate and full 2A rights. It's not like background checks stop criminals today. They are just a hoop that law abiding citizens have to jump thru and also pay for. Real criminals don't do background checks or try to buy legal weapons.

Background checks are a jobs program at every county sheriff's office in PA ... they have someone that processes carry permit applications and enter the background check info that goes to the state police.

11 posted on 12/07/2021 2:22:48 PM PST by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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It’s more than just background checks. There are places where you can’t carry a firearm, and I’ll bet the bank that the state capitol building is one of them. There are probably people who can be forbidden from owning firearms. The Second Amendment contains no such restrictions so in reality this is a slightly less restrictive gun control bill.


12 posted on 12/07/2021 2:27:41 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: lightman

Ping.


13 posted on 12/07/2021 2:35:08 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I am confused, guns are bad. This is why we have gun free zones like schools and other places so people never get hurt........sarc

I am not a gun guy but there should be zero limits where people can be armed. Assume everyone is carrying.....it it a powerful, powerful concept. A great equalizer. Folks who don’t want others to have guns actually want inequality.


14 posted on 12/07/2021 2:36:41 PM PST by SteelPSUGOP
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To: DoodleDawg
There are places where you can’t carry a firearm

Correct. All public places, airports, train stations, government buildings and schools should be accessible to gun carriers. I'll give one exception - jail. Leave you gun in the car when you visit your favorite felon. I can respect the argument that a private business may turn away people who carry. There a number of businesses that I don't frequent just because of that. Doesn't bother me. It's their property, but their loss of business.

15 posted on 12/07/2021 2:41:38 PM PST by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Here in rural PA, we do assume everyone’s armed, and we’re still not always polite.
Too many men around here are carrying more liquor than they can run with. I’m not against open carry but there will be casualties. Bad-tempered old boys behind every truck.
Heck, not too far from here and not many years ago, someone winged Santa in a Christmas parade.
So far I’ve not found anywhere I’d rather dwell. :)


16 posted on 12/07/2021 2:47:57 PM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: traderrob6
Newsweek?????Seriously???

I agree about Newsweek, but John Lott is THE expert on the issue of guns and the law, particularly the effect of increased legal concealed carry on the crime rate.

17 posted on 12/07/2021 3:00:34 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Buttons12

We don’t see much of that - everybody keeps a low profile. Idiots just tend to go away and nobody ever asks where they went.


18 posted on 12/07/2021 3:06:05 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: GreyHoundSailor
Idiots just tend to go away and nobody ever asks where they went.

Oh, we can't do that here. Everyone's related to everyone. :D

19 posted on 12/07/2021 3:09:51 PM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Buttons12

Same here.


20 posted on 12/07/2021 3:29:51 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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