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Whose Land Did Native Americans Steal Before Europeans Stole It From Them?
pjmedia.com ^ | 11/26/2021 1231 hrs et | Rick Moran

Posted on 11/27/2021 11:12:44 AM PST by rktman

We all know that history is not the left’s favorite subject. Many times, it’s just too inconvenient for their political narratives. Often, history has to be erased or submerged in order to achieve the “greater good” of creating a just and moral society.

In truth, it’s not much better on the right, although generally, the conservative take on American history is more nuanced. Christopher Columbus was an ass — a greedy, cruel, ambitious man who didn’t let anyone stand in his way to achieving riches and power, especially native people. But he was courageous enough to cross an unknown ocean in a rickety ship and with a mutinous crew.

Do his sins outweigh the good he’s done? Not our call. And certainly not the call of biased, cretinous leftists who don’t want to understand Columbus and only use his sins as illustrations in their little morality plays to condemn the entire “Age of Exploration.”

American history did not begin in 1492. There have been human beings residing in North America for at least 20,000 years and probably longer. But the people who crossed the Bering Sea land bridge from Asia to North America during the last Ice Age may not have been the first humans to arrive here. Recent DNA evidence shows that there have been several different migrations to North America with Native American tribes only being the most recent.

And that leads to the inescapable conclusion: the Native Americans who were present on the North American continent when Europeans arrived were not the same Native Americans who arrived 20,000 years ago. DNA evidence tracks the migration of one early American civilization — the Clovis people, so-called because the first tools and weapons were found in Clovis, New Mexico —

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; archaeoastronomy; bidenvoters; bloggers; christophercolumbus; clovis; columbus; columbusday; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; indians; maritimearchaic; megaliths; newmexico; outofafrica
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To: dblshot

Simply question...did Indian “Warriors” only come in to existence when the white man arrived?

Because who were all those Indian “Warriors” warring with before the white man?


41 posted on 11/27/2021 12:31:47 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: rktman

The Comanche were so dominant even the Apache moved away from their territory. The ones the Comanche didn’t kill they absorbed into their tribe or made them slaves.


42 posted on 11/27/2021 12:36:11 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug
It was the introduction of the horse that changed the dynamic there. Technology adaptation and innovation is a must. If not you get conquered or do the conquering.
43 posted on 11/27/2021 12:40:54 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Americannae1362

There was someone on FR years ago who told how his ancestors were taken as slaves by Indians from Deerfield, Massachusetts and forced to walk to Canada. Somehow I think they were able to get back.


44 posted on 11/27/2021 12:43:35 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Terry L Smith

RE:what happened to the anasazi?
what happened to the clovis people?
what happened to the kohokia people?

Is it possible, they just changed their names? Like the Papago (Bean Eaters in Spanish) did in 1986 when they officially changed the tribal name back to Tohono O’odham.

I am pretty sure the HoHokam became The Maricopa, Akimel O’odham and Tohono O’odham

Maybe the Anasazi decided they wanted to be the Hopi and Pueblo.
Maybe the Clovis thought Comanche or Apache sounded better
than Clovis.
Possibly the Kohokia preferred the sound of Algonquian better.


45 posted on 11/27/2021 12:49:03 PM PST by Tupelo
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To: rktman

What the ‘secret’ of the weakness of the Western Hemisphere inhabitants is, no one with any sense can deny, infection and virgin field epidemics. It was inevitable and impossible to avoid outside of complete avoidance, ridiculous to even postulate.

However it happened, Europe was on the receiving end of multiple plagues out of the east with the most recent being the 6th Century Justinian and the 14th - 17th Centuries being the Black Death. The explorers of the Americas were genetic descendants of the survivors. Whatever the diseases that killed 70-90% of the native inhabitants, the deaths were near certain from just being touched and breathed upon.

Remember, Mother Nature / Gaia has no compassion or care, life is and disease harvests lives!


46 posted on 11/27/2021 12:50:39 PM PST by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: rktman
Who Were The Si-Te-Cah

"Lovelock, Nevada, is about eighty miles northeast of Reno. It was in a cave near here, in 1911, that guano miners found mummies, bones, and artifacts buried under four feet of bat excrement. The desiccated bodies belonged to a very tall people - with red hair.

"This is not the physical profile of your typical American Indian, to put it mildly. And in fact, the local Paiutes had legends about these towering troublemakers, whom they called the "Si-Te-Cah." According to them the redheads were a warlike people, and a number of the Indian tribes joined together in a long war against them. Eventually, the Paiutes and their allies forced the Si-Te-Cah back to their home acres, near Mount Shasta in our own California."

47 posted on 11/27/2021 12:53:29 PM PST by blam
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“...so why wouldn’t they favor it?”

Because they can’t change it fast enough to fit each new scenario. They keep falling over already used excuses.

wy69


48 posted on 11/27/2021 1:01:32 PM PST by whitney69
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To: PIF

Solutreans pre-date the Clovis by thousands of years.


49 posted on 11/27/2021 1:10:59 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: Tupelo
"Maybe the Anasazi decided they wanted to be the Hopi and Pueblo."

The Zuni Enigma: A Native American People's Possible Japanese Connection

50 posted on 11/27/2021 1:12:18 PM PST by blam
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To: rktman

You’re understanding of Columbus is exceedingly flawed. Prolly not your fault if you’ve been imbibing the nonsense that’s been spoonfed to the masses over the past 100 years. If you want real unbiased resources on CC LMK.


51 posted on 11/27/2021 1:17:20 PM PST by KierkegaardMAN (This is the sort of stuff up with which I shall not put!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks rktman.

52 posted on 11/27/2021 1:21:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks, Civ


53 posted on 11/27/2021 1:27:03 PM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: _Jim

Harriet Beecher Stowe and “Uncle Toms Cabin” ?


54 posted on 11/27/2021 1:34:12 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: rktman

I’ve never been convinced of the Bering Straight story.


55 posted on 11/27/2021 1:39:22 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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To: Mr. Blond

Solutreans pre-date the Clovis by thousands of years.

They are the same peoples - the Solutreans crossed the ocean, following the ice edges and became those called Clovis - same stone making culture.


56 posted on 11/27/2021 1:39:52 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rktman

...GIGGLES...


57 posted on 11/27/2021 1:45:56 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: beef

I have believed for a long time that if the situations were reveresed - if Europeans were like the Indians and Indians were like the Europeans - the Indians would have sailed to Europe and enslaved the Europeans.


58 posted on 11/27/2021 1:49:12 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Fledermaus
I’ve never been convinced of the Bering Straight story.

Back in my college days, my history teacher said Chinese traveled to America by boat. Lots of Chinese documents going back over a thousand years describing and drawing Mexican plants that only grow in America and other descriptions, and the similarities between Native American Indians and Chinese groups are startling. The Chinese were skilled in ocean boating in the 7th century AD (Tang Dynasty).

59 posted on 11/27/2021 1:49:55 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

Well, Indians are mongols.


60 posted on 11/27/2021 1:51:08 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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