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One fuzzy drone image may send Kyle Rittenhouse to prison
American Thinker ^ | 13 Nov, 2021 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 11/13/2021 3:38:30 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: TigerClaws

We are the Banana Republic of America. There will be no “good guys” coming to our rescue. It’s on us.


21 posted on 11/13/2021 4:25:32 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MtnClimber

Can the ill logic of this bye presented in closing agreements?

Can the defense remind the jury to review all the photos of Kyle where in every instance he is carrying right handed?


22 posted on 11/13/2021 4:26:33 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: MtnClimber

I watched that video 50 times and I never saw Kyle pointing at anyone. I did, however, see someone point a gun at Kyle (I think, far too fuzzy to know for sure).


23 posted on 11/13/2021 4:26:37 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: MtnClimber

Let’s review the motives and resulting outcomes for all parties. Look at this and weigh it out.
Anyone caught in the sights of this mindless mob would have been judged as being either with them and escalating or as against them and by default their enemy.
Law enforcement had been neutered by the fake news and democrat courts and now they are after us.
Hands up don’t shoot
Pants up don’t loot


24 posted on 11/13/2021 4:27:47 AM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count..)
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To: TigerClaws

The totality of prosecution evidence is supposed to be evaluated agianst “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard.

Blobs should figure into the calculus. It’s just a blob sitting there, could be anything. That the prosecutor calims it is one thing is not evidence - it is the prosecutor advocating for the outcome he wants.

I agree with others who have commented that the decision will be a poliical one couched in law and fake law. I sepculate at least one juror will favor the fake law that says Kyle should have stayed home, so everything that follows is on him, and self-defense is not a defense. Liberals are immune to logic and persausion.

I also speculate 9 of the jurors “get it,” and the one or two undecides will pretty quickly “get it” too - even though the prosecution has done its best to conflate and confuse things as it mangles the law. Will that one liberal eventually capitulate? Who knows.

As I said, all pure speculation. I’ve been on three criminal juries. Highly variable conduct in deliberation. Much depends on which of them is chosen leader.


25 posted on 11/13/2021 4:29:17 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SheepWhisperer

Prosecution asked for 2 1/2 hours of closing argument.

That’s a lot of lying!

Remember. The jury has been doxxed already. They’ve been threatened. BLM is there marching saying convict or else.

The judge has been threatened. Daily Mail showed the emailed.


26 posted on 11/13/2021 4:29:25 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Bobalu

Look at his proud Mom

Now look at her as she has appeared lately
This ordeal has worn her to the bone!
She is to be pitied and prayed for.
God love her.


27 posted on 11/13/2021 4:38:16 AM PST by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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To: TigerClaws
"Kyle is the target of the DOJ. Elites are saying they'll allow riots when they want them. They'll prosecute whomever doesn't align with them politically. They'll destroy the reputation and jail anyone they choose. Don't you dare protect your property or community or we will destroy you as well. Look at Flynn. Look at Bannon. The January 6 protestors. Kyle."

Right. The jury and the judge know what will happen if there is an acquittal or directed verdict. The jurors have been videoed and doxxed. They know that if they do not convict they and their families are in mortal danger. Does any evidence matter? The Regime has already convicted him and their thug brown shirts are ready to enforce the Regime conclusions. All of the evidence and is just window dressing IMO.

28 posted on 11/13/2021 4:45:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: MtnClimber

“The problem for Kyle is that, under Wisconsin law (as is the case under most states’ laws), a person who provokes an attack may not then claim self-defense.”

This is a BS argument. I don’t know how it works in Wisconsin but in most states even if there is some initial provocation, if the provocateur then attempts to withdraw, the person who pursues to continue the conflict is the aggressor.

By the Left’s deranged thinking if a person is carrying a Trump flag that is a provocation. So if an AntiFa type tries to kill him with a skateboard and gets shot and killed, its not self defense.


29 posted on 11/13/2021 4:47:03 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Truth29

“””Right. The jury and the judge know what will happen if there is an acquittal or directed verdict. The jurors have been videoed and doxxed. They know that if they do not convict they and their families are in mortal danger. Does any evidence matter? The Regime has already convicted him and their thug brown shirts are ready to enforce the Regime conclusions. All of the evidence and is just window dressing IMO.”””


Yes, the USA is in a sad state when judges, jurors, prosecutors, defenders, and witnesses have to be concerned about the political ramifications from a trial.

In this Rittenhouse case I see two possible outcomes.

1. Rittenhouse is acquitted.
2. There is a mistrial/hung jury.

If 11 jurors are fearful of acquitting Rittenhouse because of the political fireworks afterwards, there will be at least one juror who is not a fraidy cat.


30 posted on 11/13/2021 4:55:49 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: MtnClimber

What is the accuracy and validity of the AI technology? You can’t just introduce evidence that relies on an untested or invalid technology.


31 posted on 11/13/2021 5:17:41 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: MtnClimber

I think most jurors’ chief concern is about the safety of their families.


32 posted on 11/13/2021 5:24:44 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge )
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

It says in the article :
Wisconsin law also holds that, even if someone provokes things, if he withdraws from the fight but pursuit continues, he can regain the self-defense privilege.

So to me it does not matter what happened previous as Kyle is on video retreating. Waste of time to analyze what happened before he was in retreat.


33 posted on 11/13/2021 5:34:53 AM PST by dmet
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To: MtnClimber

There was a documentary I saw - probably Forensic Files - in which a woman was murdered and the killer left a fingerprint in blood on her bed. The print was identified by someone developing a new technique. He got the computer to subtract the pattern of the material the print was on, leaving behind a clear print. He demonstrated in court that this technique did not alter the print, and the killer - a neighbor - was convicted.

So the prosecution in this case needs to PROVE that the enhancement didn’t alter the drone image.


34 posted on 11/13/2021 5:36:00 AM PST by Mr Information
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To: MtnClimber

A picture captures a 30th of a second. that image represents only what the prosecution can muster... and their assumption that that 30th of a second defines everything.


35 posted on 11/13/2021 5:51:16 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: MtnClimber

The Marxist domestic enemies are doing everything they possibly can to railroad and set this kid up. This is another Zimmerman/Trayvon case and if Rittenhouse is acquitted the Marxists in the media will forever portray him as a villain just like they do with Zimmerman.

Think how insane this is: Because they refused to get killed they are prosecuted and persecuted.


36 posted on 11/13/2021 5:51:59 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: TigerClaws

stop thinking worst!

what they mean for evil, God will use for good! God wins! Kyle is on the side of truth and right, God will see him through whatever may be, but the evil ones will pay a much much higher price.


37 posted on 11/13/2021 5:53:23 AM PST by b4me (Repeated lies does Not equal TRUTH. )
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To: PIF

What happened to Kyle is just one more piece of the leftist politicization of law in America.


It wasn’t the left who was hiding under their desks while Kenosha burned. It was the GOP. What was their response to the burning of our cities? Senator Johnson and another empty suit senator proposed getting rid of Columbus day.

What happened to Kyle is a direct result of our elected representatives going AWOL and ceding the political battlefield to Marxists.


38 posted on 11/13/2021 5:57:30 AM PST by lodi90
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To: MtnClimber

It depends on the judge. They had a witness testify that the computer program inserts pixels into a blown up image and they don’t know how the computer guesses at what to put in the photo.


39 posted on 11/13/2021 6:00:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: MtnClimber

If the video shows what they claim it shows, it means nothing. Faced with a mob we now know were themselves armed, he raised his weapon but did not fire. Only after being chased and finding himself against a wall with no where else to run, and hearing a shot fired, he turned and fired.


40 posted on 11/13/2021 6:01:56 AM PST by marron
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