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Pilot Killed In NJ Plane Crash Went To Space With William Shatner
Patch.Com ^ | November 12, 2021 | Jennifer Jean Miller

Posted on 11/12/2021 1:55:40 PM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: Rebelbase

Yeah, and there are far fewer GA planes in the sky than there are cars on the roads. Not even close.
There are around 204,000 small planes registered in America, but there are around 276 million cars.

That’s about 1300 cars for every plane. That 100 to one doesn’t look as good.

Love small planes, but don’t delude yourself. Roughly it corresponds with a motorcycle risk. But in planes you can mitigate almost all of the biggest risks. On a bike everyone out there is trying to kill you.


81 posted on 11/12/2021 5:05:02 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That is not a condemnation of private flying. You do not describe exactly what caused the crash.

I flew for 40 years. I knew quite a few who had fatal crashes. Several of hem far better pilots than I was or hoped to be.

When I say I knew them, I was on a first name basis with them.

Not a single one of them could be chalked up to “the dangers of private aviation”.

Every single one of them involved stupidity..I hate to say that as some of them I liked. But they were stupid in that they thought they were the world’s greatest pilots.

A short list:

Rolls to inverted climb-out on departure: 3
Hammerhead stalls in borrowed aircraft, overloaded and out of cg: 2, one of which I bought from four aircraft
Roll to inverted while buzzing home: 2
Duck under in mountainous terrain (big mountains): 1
Circling approach at night weather below minimums: 2
Loss of control on final fog: 1

And finally, one passenger who I did not know personally, but who everyone knew publicly: Audie Murphy. I am more than familiar with that one. I flew over the same spot where the plane crashed which he had chartered. Instrument weather, rain. probably fog at ground level. Died because the pilot was not instrument rated and in weather way over his head. I am easing along at 7,000 happy as can be while is getting killed under me.

None of these were the fault of private aviation. Every one of them were caused by people who violated the basics.


82 posted on 11/12/2021 5:13:27 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: DesertRhino

I lost my affinity for riding a motorcycle on the road when I took physics in college.

Dirt bikes are still fun.


83 posted on 11/12/2021 5:17:21 PM PST by Rebelbase (Were State Dept. Havana Syndrome victims the guinea pigs of 5G/graphene oxide "vaccine" tests?)
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To: generally; little jeremiah

Finally watching “The Hunt” and maybe the “Apex” tonight. Was reading info on and saw this link. Interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Dangerous_Game

As an aside, I dispatched a real snake (a small one but still)in my house last night. Granted I had brought a couple of boxes, delivered, left on our front porch into the kitchen and may have imported him. And we do live in the swamp that is Florida. One box I discovered has a hole in it. I walked past our pantry and there he was, I did not even scream. All I could think was CHOP, can’t let it get away and flew the few steps to the garage to get some implement of death. One handy metal dustpan later and he was located to another dimension.

Watch your packages you bring in people!

How was your day?


84 posted on 11/12/2021 5:17:57 PM PST by Cats Pajamas (President Trump won so big he broke their algorithm!)
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To: Jewbacca

Aren’t all pilots instrument trained?


85 posted on 11/12/2021 5:19:24 PM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: 1Old Pro

Competency alone is not enough.

Several of the pilots I mention were capable of things in an aircraft that most of us could never do, but they had absolutely no fear. They could make the airplane do anything they wanted.

A truly safe pilot has to be a little bit afraid.


86 posted on 11/12/2021 5:29:33 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: PJ-Comix

This just reinforces my well-founded prejudice AGAINST ever flying on private planes.


Many years ago when I was young and immortal I had a college roommate who was part owner of a Piper Cub. We’d take off from Santa Barbara and fly over the mountain to Santa Ynez where he’d practice touch and goes. The Cub was a fabric covered airplane and going for a ride was quite the treat.

Don’t know how I’d feel about the experience now, but then there was absolutely no fear at all. Much more fun than in a commercial jet.


87 posted on 11/12/2021 6:00:13 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: GOP Poet

I see no one has replied to your question.

The answer us that they are not.

It sounds unreasonable, but it is not. There are many very professional high time pilots who do not have an instrument rating and do not need one. Pipe line patrol, crop dusting, Flying in areas where there are no instrument approaches or traffic control, such as bush flying in Alaska, South America, fire fighting, etc.

And helicopter pilots who do do a lot of very weird stuff at low altitudes.


88 posted on 11/12/2021 6:30:00 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: miele man

You are most welcome - I enjoyed flying the 172, and am glad to pass on the 172 safety information.


89 posted on 11/12/2021 7:50:31 PM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: generally

FASCINATING THEORY!

Thanks for the ping!


90 posted on 11/12/2021 8:26:38 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: StolarStorm

Sending PMs on top of having posts pulled?

O, what a night.


91 posted on 11/12/2021 8:42:49 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: TEXOKIE

Where’ve you been for MONTHS?


92 posted on 11/12/2021 8:44:20 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Rebelbase

On average how many people fly in small planes per day and how many drive per day. I’d feel pretty confident that it’s at least 10,000 times as many people who drive as fly in small planes.


93 posted on 11/12/2021 9:29:50 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Impossible not to have the thought that possibly someone who hates the U.S. and private enterprise and patriots and those who were involved in the inspirational Shatner space flight did something to this pilot’s plane.
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Well, as long as you are exploring theories of deliberate sabotage, here’s another person’s idea of things to investigate:

BurntAsset17
@BurntAsset17
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Interesting news day. His connection to Bezos, life sciences and big pharma can’t be ignored.

Glen de Vries death: Blue Origin rocket passenger dies in plane crash
Glen de Vries took part in the Blue Origin space flight last month. He was 49

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/glen-de-vries-death-shatner-b1956864.html

Medidata co-founder Glen de Vries was named Life Sciences & Healthcare Vice-Chair for Dassault Systèmes in July 2021.

https://www.medidata.com/en/leadership/glen-de-vries


94 posted on 11/12/2021 11:31:01 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: old curmudgeon

Thanks so much for the reply. My father was an instrument trained and qualified pilot. So I just assumed that was the foundation. Appreciate your comment and information. :D


95 posted on 11/13/2021 12:39:14 AM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: PJ-Comix
John Denver.

Lynyrd Skynyrd.

-PJ

96 posted on 11/13/2021 1:02:42 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was flying in a chartered twin engine airliner Convair 240 that ran out of gas. The official cause of the accident was fuel exhaustion due to pilot error!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_plane_crash


97 posted on 11/13/2021 10:48:36 AM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: GOP Poet

No


98 posted on 11/13/2021 5:32:50 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: CodeToad

Tells you how misleading statistics are.

Or, more accurately, what an incomplete and misleading picture they can give.


99 posted on 11/13/2021 5:34:33 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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