Posted on 11/08/2021 3:18:33 PM PST by ameribbean expat
The proposals, according to summaries issued by the House and Senate, include ensuring workers can receive exemptions from employer-required vaccinations; preventing government employers from requiring workers to be vaccinated against COVID-19; reinforcing the state’s so-called “Parents Bill of Rights” law to shield schoolchildren from mask and vaccination mandates; moving toward withdrawing from federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration oversight; and prohibiting the state surgeon general from forcing people to be vaccinated.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandoweekly.com ...
I like that idea. Just tell the Feds that we are not obeying your dictates. What are they going to do, invade?
Can states do that? Lets all dump OSHA along with FBI,NSA, DOJ, etc. etc.
First chance we get, lets dump D.C. too.
Can states do that? Lets all dump OSHA along with FBI,NSA, DOJ, etc. etc.
Ping for your interest.
They won't have to, at first. Same as when they decide they really want your guns. No need for door knocking. Just fines, garnishments, liens and such. Kinda like Australia is doing now for those that are breaking their quarantine rules. Break the populace financially, and they will get their way. We already know there is no such thing as a "patriot" today. The 2nd Amendment movement today consists of mildly successful, middle aged meal team 6 types who would never actually sacrifice if it means they can continue playing airsoft and feel tacticool.
If i lose my job over resisting the jab, I’m going to Florida.
No state leaves OSHA without OSHA agreement and approval to do so.
About 20 states operate their own OSHA-approved workplace safety department, and are allowed to make their own rules. Utah, for example, has quite a few regulations that pertaoin to minong, that are not in the federal regulations.
I don’t forsee this OSHA stunt surviving long enough to allow a state to spin up its own workplace safety.
You can crouch down on your knees and lick the hands that feed you, but there are a lot of old dogs in America who won’t lie down for this corrupt administration.
The 10th Amendment says they can.
The OSHA regulations allow a state to substitute itself for OSHA, but that allowance is conditional.
https://www.osha.gov/stateplans
Don't cecede, just cancel participation in gummint programs.
I've been contemplating the last few days, something I haven't completely fleshed out yet, but .... and yea/nay voting body is de-facto a jury.
Thus;
The concept of Jury Nullification might be the salvation of Conservatism, and ultimately our nation.
Sorry to tell you this, but they already have given in. Ruby Risge. Waco. LaVoy Finicum. Obama Admin. Biden admin. If there were indeed any "old dogs" that were inclined to patriot up, it would have been done a long time ago. The truth is, even those "old dogs" have given in to peaceful slavery.
OSHA is a pain in the ass anyway, businesses should have the freedom from OSHA ridiculous regulations, if businesses don’t keep their employees safe they will be sued to high heaven when employees get hurt!!!
We’re in G war now.
I can hook you up, but its hot down here
a step towards secession
Can states do that?
The newspaper story is pretty cryptic, but I believe that what it is trying to communicate is that the state of Florida is contemplating submitting its own state occupational health and safety plan to OSHA for federal approval -- i.e.:
"State Plans are OSHA-approved workplace safety and health programs operated by individual states or U.S. territories. There are currently 22 State Plans covering both private sector and state and local government workers, and there are six State Plans covering only state and local government workers. State Plans are monitored by OSHA and must be at least as effective as OSHA in protecting workers and in preventing work-related injuries, illnesses and deaths."
https://www.osha.gov/stateplans/
Florida is not currently one of the "22 State Plans" mentioned above.
Key here is the language set forth above ". . . must be at least as effective as OSHA in protecting workers," etc. This is actually a pretty standard federal-state "cooperative federalism" arrangement. One sees it, for instance, with State Implementation Plans (SIP) under the federal Clean Air Act. Upon receiving federal EPA approval, a given state environmental protection agency is authorized to implement and enforce its SIP . . . the catch being, of course, that the state's SIP cannot be less stringent than the corresponding federal requirements.
In short, here, Florida cannot escape the reach of the federal Occupational Health and Safety Act through this proposed gambit. The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution is not so easily evaded. This is not to say that what Florida is contemplated is a wholly meaningless gesture, just that it wouldn't have the effect that some might imagine.
And the Supremacy Clause says quite the opposite, I'm afraid. So, constitutionally-speaking, this is by no means as clear cut as some might think.
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