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Gun Expert Refutes ‘Sabotage’ Theory By ‘Rust’ Armorer’s Lawyers: ‘Speculation is Kind’ For Claim (Podcast)
The Wrap ^ | Nov 5, 2021 | Brian Welk

Posted on 11/05/2021 1:49:04 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

A weapons safety expert and industry armorer pushed back on the notion from Hannah Gutierrez-Reed’s lawyers that “sabotage” may have been to blame for how live ammunition found its way into the gun that killed Halyna Hutchins on the set of “Rust” last month.

The sabotage claim, as floated by the lawyers for “Rust” armorer Gutierrez-Reed on “Today” Wednesday, is speculation and has not been substantiated with any evidence by the lawyers or authorities. And Steve Wolf, who has 30 years of experience as a movie armorer, told “TheWrap-Up Podcast,” that “speculation” is a “kind word” for how to describe that claim.

“I think it’s a far more sinister explanation than the more likely explanation that people were using that gun for target practice, they didn’t properly unload it, they left it back on the cart and then someone picked it up, several people handled it with none of them checking it. That’s just a more likely explanation,” Wolf told “TheWrap-Up Podcast.”

Wolf said that it isn’t hard to physically figure out how a live round wound up on set, but the more important question is why — why did someone feel it was appropriate to do so, and why wasn’t the gun properly checked by someone first?

“The armorer did not check it, the first AD did not check it and Alec Baldwin did not check it. So there were at least three opportunities where someone could’ve checked the gun.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alexbaldwin; baldwin; banglist; hollywood; rust; rustmovie; sabotage
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I believe I read there was a union walkout that morning. Anytime that happens sabotage is on the table IMHO.
1 posted on 11/05/2021 1:49:04 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Lurker’s Razor: Never attribute malice to something when stupidity will do.

L


2 posted on 11/05/2021 1:51:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Doesn’t matter if a union thug left a live round in the pistol. It still was supposed to be checked.


3 posted on 11/05/2021 1:53:13 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The failure to check the gun is one point of negligence and the armorer, the assistant director and Alec Baldwin were all negligent in that.

As for pointing the gun at a person and not keeping his finger off the trigger and not paying attention to what was behind what he was pointing his gun at, Alec Baldwin alone bears responsibility for that. Those are the other 3 basic rules of gun safety he violated.


4 posted on 11/05/2021 2:02:43 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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The speculation of "Sabotage" is a diversionary media tactic by the lawyers. A lie, in other words.

Even if there had been sabotage, the basic safety procedures required on any film or stage set would have caught the problem, and prevented any injury. Those procedures were not being followed.

The lawyers are just digging a deeper hole. The lawyers' tale reinforces the notion that their client was criminally negligent in performing her job duties as Armorer.

And Baldwin, as Producer, had the authority to fire the Armorer. Which he certainly should have done after the previous two incidents of negligent discharge of a firearm.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

5 posted on 11/05/2021 2:06:01 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody knows that the dice are loaded)
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Hopefully sabotage is perceived real by Marxist Hollywood "Elite" actors, producers et all, and an excuse of desperation by Judges, Juries and the public.

Then we can send Baldwin and company to prison broke, while the Marxist Hollywood "Elite" and the Marxist Hollywood Unions will go after each other with a vengeance to kill.

Buy popcorn.

6 posted on 11/05/2021 2:06:19 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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We had a saying at work....”if your explaining, your loosing”.

This armoror chick is probably culpable...at least to a certain extent.


7 posted on 11/05/2021 2:08:59 PM PDT by V_TWIN
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“The armorer did not check it, the first AD did not check it and Alec Baldwin did not check it. So there were at least three opportunities where someone could’ve checked the gun.”

Ultimately it was Alec Baldwin’s responsibility to check the revolver safe.

He was the person with the revolver in his hand when it was fired, twice!

Any person picking up a firearm MUST verify the weapon safe before taking any other action with that firearm.

Baldwin picked up the revolver with the intent of placing his finger on the trigger.

That intent made it absolutely essential that he VERIFY the weapon SAFE. He could not rely on any other person to take that action. The possible consequences of failing to so, as the event in question show, are far too tragic.

8 posted on 11/05/2021 2:10:16 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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I’m starting an Alex Baldwin consequences pool. I’ve got 48 Hours of Community Service.


9 posted on 11/05/2021 2:12:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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[[Even if there had been sabotage, the basic safety procedures required on any film or stage set would have caught the problem,]]

Exactly- thaT Is what it all boils down to- sabotage is a diversionary tactic like you said- someone handed alac the gun without checking it-

The only possibility for intentional sabotage woudl be if After alec got the gun, he laid it down somewhere, and someone then slipped a round in it hoping for tragedy- I doubt that is what happened- if it did though- that is the ONLY scenario that lets the armorors (sp?) off the hook-


10 posted on 11/05/2021 2:16:26 PM PDT by Bob434
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“the more likely explanation that people were using that gun for target practice, they didn’t properly unload it, they left it back on the cart and then someone picked it up, several people handled it with none of them checking it. That’s just a more likely explanation,”.

This was my immediate conclusion the first time I heard what was a rumor at the time, that some in the crew were plinking with the guns during down time.

11 posted on 11/05/2021 2:16:47 PM PDT by circlecity
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Exactly! It’s still NEGLIGENCE (not an accident) for a gun not to be competently checked immediately before it it is raised up where it is pointing toward any person.


12 posted on 11/05/2021 2:22:27 PM PDT by ManardG
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Which is why you have an armorer to check it all just before handing it over for use. The sabotage plea gets no one off the hook.


13 posted on 11/05/2021 2:25:06 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

She is screwed, and was responsible for chain of custody at all times.


14 posted on 11/05/2021 2:25:35 PM PDT by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun..)
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15 posted on 11/05/2021 2:34:09 PM PDT by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun..)
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To: Seruzawa

” It still was supposed to be checked”

Yep.

everything else is Horsehiite.

You are handed a weapon. First thing: aim away from everyone and CHECK IT.
or face the consequences of the damage you cause.


16 posted on 11/05/2021 2:53:55 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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The young female armorer claims she objected to safety issues on the set, but Baldwin didn’t do anything about the problems.

If she had a shred of integrity or common sense, she should have quit the job then and there.


17 posted on 11/05/2021 2:54:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Everything Woke turns to shit.” ~ President Donald Trump)
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Sort of says it all and lays the blame for the negligent discharge. “The armorer did not check it, the first AD did not check it and Alec Baldwin did not check it. So there were at least three opportunities where someone could’ve checked the gun.”

You have to wonder whether manslaughter or some off charge will be filed and against whom.


18 posted on 11/05/2021 2:55:23 PM PDT by Robert357
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A world of stupid here...”Bang! your’e dead”

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvikc3


19 posted on 11/05/2021 2:56:54 PM PDT by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun..)
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She is screwed, and was responsible for chain of custody at all times.

She was doing another job at the time of the shooting. She handed off the gun to the AD. This handing off confers chain of custody to the AD. he was handing it off to Alec later. The armorer was not in the room at the time of the shooting. The gun was out of her hands and in the custody of the AD. The AD is your bunny and Alec has practically said so himself. The AD is on the hook for this fiasco.

20 posted on 11/05/2021 3:00:46 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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