Far fewer Californians getting COVID-19 booster shots than expected, bringing new alarms

Sounds like some Californians aren't so excited about getting the COVID-19 booster.

Anyone more than 8 months out from their last vaxx is unvaccinated.

I would imagine at some point that boosters will deemed mandatory and OSHA will have to update their ETS.

CDC is going to revise what “fully vaccinated “ is in the next few months to require the boosters, as well as to say that J+J single dose doesn’t count.

they wont stop until they kill us all

“ CDC is going to revise what “fully vaccinated “ is in the next few months to require the boosters”
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I’m pretty sure the CDC rescinded that idiotic “trial balloon” plan.

They may as well come right out and say Pfizer is the only acceptable one, and the you are required to take it as often as Pfizer says you must.

Would seem a safe bet, considering the slippery slope we’re on. And there’s a significant number of people who would be absolutely fine with mandatory monthly boosters, if only to feel superior to the knuckle-draggers...

This is terrible! A pandemic of common sense might be taking hold in California this could signal the beginning of the end of leftist domination there.

Massachusetts report the same thing a month and a half ago or so. The demand for boosters has been greater than the demand for new vaccines and had quickly falling off a cliff.

More like 5-6 months

Or the reverse

Yes, probably true

Now THIS is FAKE News.

Now THIS is FAKE News.

And by that I mean, the LIES the L.A. Times uses to try and make their case.

I don't doubt the number of people getting vaccinated is far less then what they want but the crap they spew concerning what COVID-19 does to them and what the Vaccine does is pure propaganda.

Demand for COVID-19 booster shots in California has been slower than some health officials anticipated, according to data obtained by The Times, sparking new concerns of at-risk populations losing immunity as the risky holiday season approaches.

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Wonder why? (These people are clueless)

I know from friends who took the shots, most got the 1st shot without incident. The 2nd shot caused many issues; in some cases extremely bad side-effects, some requiring heart bypass surgery (dismissed by our F/R resident gasbag doctor). These people are *not* going to be taking a booster, for obvious reasons.

Similar experience here. Most friends I have that were “fully vaxed” say they wouldn’t have done it at all if they knew it would be an open ended operation.

Covid: How long does vaccine based immunity last? by Sebastian Rushworth, M.D.

It’s unfortunate that the drug companies decided to end their trials early, by giving active covid vaccine to the members of the placebo group after just a few months. It means that there is no long term follow-up of the covid vaccines from randomized trials, and there never will be.
This means that we are instead forced to rely entirely on observational data as we try to understand how safe and effective the vaccines are over the longer term.

That is why a recent study out of Sweden is so very interesting. It is currently available as a pre-print and can be found here. The purpose of the study was to determine how effective the vaccines are at protecting against covid over the longer term (i.e. after more than a few months). This was a registry based study, so it’s not surprising that it is coming out of Sweden. Sweden is generally acknowledged as being better than any other country at collecting and sorting large quantities of population data and using it to produce these types of studies.

The authors of the study began by identifying all people residing in Sweden who had been fully vaccinated against covid-19 by late May 2021. At that time, three different vaccines were being used in Sweden: Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca.

The vaccinated people were then matched individually against people of the same age and gender, and living in the same municipality, who hadn’t been vaccinated. In total, 1,684,958 individuals were included in the study. They were followed until October to see if they developed covid-19.

So, what did the study show?

As would be expected, the vaccines were very effective at preventing symptomatic covid around two months out from vaccination. This is what the randomized trials showed, and it’s the reason the vaccines were approved for use. Overall, the reduction in relative risk at 31-60 days out from vaccination was 89%.

However, after those first two months, there was a rapid decline in efficacy. At four to six months, the vaccines were only reducing the relative risk of infection by 48%!

This is pretty interesting when we consider that governments had initially set the bar for approving the vaccines at a 50% relative risk reduction. So, if the trials had been required to run for six months before presenting results instead of only running for two months, then the vaccines would have been considered too ineffective to be worth bothering with, an would never have been approved.

Well, that’s not quite true. One vaccine did still provide a better than 50% relative risk reduction at six months - the Moderna vaccine. At four to six months, the relative risk reduction with the Moderna vaccine was 71%. Pfizer was at the same time point only offering a 47% reduction in risk, and AstraZeneca was at that point not doing anything whatsoever to lower risk.

It makes sense that the Moderna vaccine would offer better protection than the Pfizer vaccine. Although the vaccines are virtually identical, the dose in the Moderna vaccine is three times higher. This is likely the reason why Moderna has been associated with much higher rates of myocarditis, which is why it is no longer approved for use in people under the age of 30 here in Sweden.

So, if governments hadn’t been so hasty to get the vaccines out, and had demanded six months of follow-up rather than two, only the Moderna vaccine would ever have been approved in the first place.

When we go further out than six months, things get even more depressing. By the nine month mark, the Pfizer vaccine is no longer offering any protection whatsoever against symptomatic covid-19. Unfortunately, nine month out data isn’t offered for the Moderna vaccine due to the small number of people for whom that information is currently available, but at six months out, the Moderna vaccine’s ability to prevent symptomatic covid-19 had dropped to only 59%. So there is a continuous decline in effectiveness at each time point measured even for the Moderna vaccine, without any sign of levelling off.

What about if we look at sub-groups, such as the elderly, who are by far the most at risk from covid-19, and therefore potentially have most to gain from vaccination?

People over the age of 80 initially show a good response to the vaccine, with a 73% reduction in relative risk of disease at one to two months out from vaccination. However this drops to only 50% at two to four months, and by six months there is no benefit whatsoever.

Even for the middle aged (50-64 years), who have better functioning immune systems and who should therefore respond more strongly to the vaccines, the vaccines are completely ineffective at preventing symptomatic disease by the four to six months mark. The only group for whom the vaccines are more than 50% effective by the four month mark is people under the age of 50 (for whom effectiveness at four to six months is 51%).

Of course, how good the vaccines are at preventing symptomatic disease isn’t really what matters, if by symptomatic disease we usually mean something more akin to the common cold than to the Spanish flu. What really matters is how good the vaccines are at preventing serious disease. So, let’s look at that.

At one to two months out from vaccination, the vaccines provided a 91% reduction in risk of hospitalization or death. By four to six months, that had dropped to 74%. And from six months out, the reduction was down to 42%, although the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated group was no longer statistically significant. In other words, at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

As I see it, there are two possible explanations for the rapidly declining effectiveness of the vaccines. The first is that it’s due to the limited immunity produced by the vaccines themselves, and the second is that it’s due to the continued evolution of the virus and in particular the rise of the delta variant. If the second reason is true, then there is no reason whatsoever to give people boosters, because the boosters won’t do anything to improve immunity.

If the first reason is true, then there is a case to be made for boosters, although it feels pretty absurd to give everyone a booster every four months to protect against a virus that for most people is little more than a cold, that 99,8% of infected people will survive, and for which there is now massive natural population immunity, thanks to all the people who have already had covid.

Unlike the short-term protection offered by the vaccines, the protection generated by infection has been shown to be both durable and broad, in spite of junk science claims to the contrary produced by the CDC. There is however a pretty good case to be made for regular boosting of the multi-morbid elderly every four months, preferentially with the Moderna vaccine.

At one to two months out from vaccination, the vaccines provided a 91% reduction in risk of hospitalization or death. By four to six months, that had dropped to 74%. And from six months out, the reduction was down to 42%, although the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated group was no longer statistically significant. In other words, at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

As I see it, there are two possible explanations for the rapidly declining effectiveness of the vaccines. The first is that it’s due to the limited immunity produced by the vaccines themselves, and the second is that it’s due to the continued evolution of the virus and in particular the rise of the delta variant. If the second reason is true, then there is no reason whatsoever to give people boosters, because the boosters won’t do anything to improve immunity.

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/11/05/covid-how-long-does-vaccine-based-immunity-last/

This outrageous disobedience to the Leader must end!

so I have a question...

If you are vaccinated and were exposed to Covid at the 4 month mark, had mild symptoms, and it is now at the 6 month mark...do you get a booster anyway?

I suspect a lot of people got covid or were exposed...with little to no symptoms. Now what?